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We do not give our rulers anything, they give it to themselves. Did you vote for council tax?

I hope they see fit to do something about this type of crime.

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Originally posted by Pawn Qween
What about crimes against the elderly? Crimes against women? 🙂
Children are the only true innocent victoms

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We should have a national vote on it.

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A simple solution for these types of offenders is to just put them into the general population of the prisons they would be dead within a week!

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The way I see it, people complain so much nowadays about prison overcrowding etc. etc. anybody who commits anything that deserves a "life" imprisonment should just be executed, I'm not saying on live TV, just executed. And anyone who gets found guilty of the same smaller crime 3 times should also be executed. I think that would have good long term crime stopping effects.

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Originally posted by Nicky4815
The way I see it, people complain so much nowadays about prison overcrowding etc. etc. anybody who commits anything that deserves a "life" imprisonment should just be executed, I'm not saying on live TV, just executed. And anyone who gets found guilty of the same smaller crime 3 times should also be executed. I think that would have good long term crime stopping effects.
Unfortunately that doesn't cover people who are wrongly convicted, victoms of police curruption, being set up etc etc.

Try explaining to the family of the wrongfully convicted inmate 'oh by the way it wasn't him after all sorry about that'.

Beyond reasonable doubt isn't good enough for strict legislation as you are suggesting.

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Originally posted by ShadowCastle
A simple solution for these types of offenders is to just put them into the general population of the prisons they would be dead within a week!
Doubtful. Maybe in some local prisons, but in many prisons the regimes are mixed anyway, and you tend to find that the longer-term prisoners are more tolerant than the gangsta cons on remand for whom sentencing and the reality of prison hasn't yet hit home. If you're serving a life sentence, you learn to get along with anyone.

People are also forgetting that "Ordinary" or Main Location cons may themselves have commited sexcrimes on a previous sentence (or gone undetected by the law) - and even if some of them would so society's dirty work for it, all that really is happening is that we as a society are letting them reinforce their offending behaviour by suggesting that we find their behaviour somehow more "acceptable" than that of a sex offender. Since there are gradations of sex offence just as their are gradations of "ordinary" criminal violence, I think this is truly appalling idea.

Anyway, short of withdrawing from the EU, the death penalty isn't coming back here. And if every offender is going to get two trials (with presumably two appeals, four judges and four juries and four sets of QCs and solicitors, not to mention vastly more time spent on remand), justice is going to be even more expensive for the taxpayer than it already is.

PS: Voluntary chemical castration is actually a very good idea - it would probably be more popular with prisoners than the general public suspects.

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That would be awesome.. have a number to ring up when people get in your way.

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I'd hate to see the same as Iraq happen where terrorist activities have increased through similar techniques. It would be foolish to do without a court process. If there is no trial that is shown first then many people could think it's targeted at them, if they were to share similarities, which could cause them to flip and kill or suicide. I guess you could do the same to them also but then the same may happen. I guess my point being a lot of people think they do good in societies etc because they continually look for their credits, which are there.. along with the many more debits they never see.

edits galore. 🙂.

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If you can kill like a pro.. then I dont really see the problem with that... but it shouldnt be a fun afternoon activity for every tom, dick & harry. Innocent victims should always be kept to a mini.

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Wow, I'm posting like crazy here(great topic). If you fail and cause innocent deaths then I think it's only fair that you would be strung up also, as you would be a danger to societies like Bush has proven. He is a murderer and should be executed.