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24 Jul 22
@fmf saidIt is not me that I have been talking about, you are talking about me, and you do it as if anything about me matters, when the topic is not what I think, but the attributes of God.
Do you want more people here to declare your opinions to be true? Is that what you want?
Opinions about opinions might be what you enjoy talking about but that’s you.
24 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidI gave you my personal thoughts on the possible attributes of a creator entity. And you have shared your personal opinions about your God figure and its attributes. It's a debate and discussion forum where people swap opinions about each other's opinions. What is it you are looking for?
It is not me that I have been talking about, you are talking about me, and you do it as if anything about me matters, when the topic is not what I think, but the attributes of God.
@fmf saidThis appears to be what KellyJay is running away from a couple of pages back. He doesn't like talking about moral compasses unless the discussion is founded on the premise that his moral compass is correct and "true" because it is based on his religious beliefs.
You have a moral compass that guides you in terms of the moral dimensions pertaining to your opinions about what you see as reality. And so do I. So does everyone.
@kellyjay saidFirstly that “truth” (Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life) is a metaphor. You see even Jesus understood how to use and interpret metaphors, something you are so painfully incapable of.
Sure we can know the truth and it can set us free.
Secondly, even that “truth”, is not objective, it is subjective.
(I’m sure you’ll write a block of faith blurb now about having a relationship with Jesus which is real and therefore the truth and what not, and completely duck away from what I’ve actually written.)
24 Jul 22
@divegeester saidYou realize that Jesus, when He said He was the Way, Truth, and Life, even
Firstly that “truth” (Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life) is a metaphor. You see even Jesus understood how to use and interpret metaphors, something you are so painfully incapable of.
Secondly, even that “truth”, is not objective, it is subjective.
(I’m sure you’ll write a block of faith blurb now about having a relationship with Jesus which is real and therefore the truth and what not, and completely duck away from what I’ve actually written.)
metaphorically speaking was speaking about Him being the Way, Truth, and Life
and if you take Him at His word when speaking about Himself, He is saying that
He is the Way, Truth, and Life. Either way, unlike us being the Word of God when
He speaks it is always the truth; if we grasp it or not doesn't change who Jesus is
and neither should we add or take away from what He said.
When He said only through Him can we come to the Father, that means He is
the end, and by Him we can come to the Father means He is also the means
by which we do that, making Him our means to the end, He is all we need.
24 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidHypothetically speaking.
You realize that Jesus, when He said He was the Way, Truth, and Life, even
metaphorically speaking was speaking about Him being the Way, Truth, and Life
and if you take Him at His word when speaking about Himself, He is saying that
He is the Way, Truth, and Life. Either way, unlike us being the Word of God when
He speaks it is always the truth; if we grasp it or not does ...[text shortened]... means He is also the means
by which we do that, making Him our means to the end, He is all we need.
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This looks a lot like a little triad of connected friends ganging up on @kellyjay to challenge his beliefs.
I hope all three of you get the boot.