Believing in Jesus... up to a point

@kellyjay said
I'm a Christian saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and like all who come to God, they receive the Spirit of God, so true, right.

Under what circumstances, to your way of thinking, could you now face "damnation"?

@fmf said
Under what circumstances, to your way of thinking, could you now face "damnation"?

Abiding in Christ I don’t worry about that!

@kellyjay said
Abiding in Christ I don’t worry about that!

Once saved always saved, then?

Or are you just baulking at the question?

I did not ask you whether you were worried.

@fmf said
Once saved always saved, then?

Or are you just baulking at the question?

I did not ask you whether you were worried.

Not abiding in Christ would do it.

@kellyjay said
Not abiding in Christ would do it.

"Not abiding in Christ" means "sinning" and failing to do good works, then?

@fmf said
"Not abiding in Christ" means "sinning" and failing to do good works, then?

You are in a relationship with God or you are not, you are describing works for salvation while it is salvation for works.

@fmf said
And I understand what it is you have faith in and what your faith makes you believe about yourself.

I have no doubt you "understand" in the "natural", on an intellectual level the precepts relative to the narrative that describes the process of "regeneration", but the issue isn't about me or my faith.

@fmf said
"Not abiding in Christ" means "sinning" and failing to do good works, then?

They cannot bear the teachings of Christ so your questions have them very uneasy.

@kellyjay said
You are in a relationship with God or you are not, you are describing works for salvation while it is salvation for works.

And on "Judgement Day", this "relationship with God" will be judged and your "eternal fate" will be decided by God?

@josephw said
I have no doubt you "understand" in the "natural", on an intellectual level the precepts relative to the narrative that describes the process of "regeneration", but the issue isn't about me or my faith.

the issue isn't about me or my faith

Yes it is, because your faith is what is making you think that you have been supernaturally transformed.

@fmf said
For many years I did believe that it was "a supernatural thing". So, it is rather inaccurate of you to say that I am "experientially without knowledge of it".

You believed for many years it was a "supernatural thing", but if you had experienced the "new birth", then you would have had knowledge "experientially", on a spiritual level, that you could never deny.

@josephw said
You believed for many years it was a "supernatural thing", but if you had experienced the "new birth", then you would have had knowledge "experientially", on a spiritual level, that you could never deny.

I do have "experiencial knowledge".

@fmf said
It is a matter of faith.

Do you think "faith" is some kind of a shot in the dark?

Faith is based in reality. Otherwise the exercise of it is an illusion.

@josephw said
Do you think "faith" is some kind of a shot in the dark?

I don't know you mean.