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    @kellyjay said
    It was real until you acknowledged it wasn't, making the whole experience false.
    My faith was real to me until I lost my belief in the Bible. The "whole experience" was one of very sharp and everyday life-affecting reality. That was my perception and my experience during those years.
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    @kellyjay said
    You just came to your senses and realized you were playing at being a Christian
    and left the fakeness of it to acknowledge the truth between you and that faith.
    I wasn't "playing at being a Christian". I was walking the walk.
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    @fmf said
    My faith was real to me until I lost my belief in the Bible. The "whole experience" was one of very sharp and everyday life-affecting reality. That was my perception and my experience during those years.
    Real until you acknowledge it wasn't, both cannot be true at the same time, if it was
    real than you left the reality of God in your life. If what you had was false than what
    you had before was not the reality of God in your life.
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    @fmf said
    I wasn't "playing at being a Christian". I was walking the walk.
    Walking a walk with a fake god between your ears.
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    @kellyjay said
    nothing about what you used to
    be could have been real, because you admit it now, "...pretending to believe...".
    "Admit" what?

    This is what I wrote:

    "Do you think I should be pretending to be a believer? Do you think I should be pretending that I feel I have turned my back on something real?"

    Do you not understand what that means?
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    @kellyjay said
    Walking a walk with a fake god between your ears.
    It was the same god figure as you worship.
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    @fmf said
    "Admit" what?

    This is what I wrote:

    "Do you think I should be pretending to be a believer? Do you think I should be pretending that I feel I have turned my back on something real?"

    Do you not understand what that means?
    "...pretending to be …"
    Yes, pretending means it wasn't real.
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    29 Oct '18 00:321 edit
    @fmf said
    It was the same god figure as you worship.
    How would you know? All you had in your life was a fake god between your ears!
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    @kellyjay said
    Real until you acknowledge it wasn't, both cannot be true at the same time, if it was
    real than you left the reality of God in your life. If what you had was false than what
    you had before was not the reality of God in your life.
    It felt real to me then just like it feels real to you now.
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    @kellyjay said
    How would you know, all you had in your life was a fake god between your ears?
    It was the same God, Jesus and the Bible that you talk about here. It felt as real to me as did my wife and my kids.
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    @fmf said
    It felt real to me then just like it feels real to you now.
    You have no idea what I have. You have acknowledge what you had wasn't ever
    real, it only made you feel good while you pretended.
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    @kellyjay said
    "...pretending to be …"
    Yes, pretending means it wasn't real.
    It means I used to be a Christian and I am not now. Do you think I should be pretending to still be a believer?
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    @fmf said
    It was the same God, Jesus and the Bible that you talk about here. It felt as real to me as did my wife and my kids.
    He may have been the one you were pretending to know, but you acknowledge you
    faked it. So the reality of God is something you have never known. I will tell you
    this the real One is better than life itself.
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    @fmf said
    It means I used to be a Christian and I am not now. Do you think I should be pretending to still be a believer?
    You have never been anything other than what you are now.
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    @kellyjay said
    You have no idea what I have. You have acknowledge what you had wasn't ever
    real, it only made you feel good while you pretended.
    I certainly was not pretending to be a Christian.
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