@kellyjay saidI don't think Christians are "pretending" to have a relationship with God. I have never said anything of the sort, never, on this forum. Just stick to what I say. Don't make stuff up.
That they are pretending to have a relationship with God, they have to be pretending in your point of view since you deny God is real.
29 Oct 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidDive speaks about his weakness as a Christian, but continues to do absolutely nothing about it. He seems content to call himself a Christian, then act horrible every chance he gets.
Dive has spoken with humility about his weakness as a Christian. For you to equate that with fakery is a nonsense.
It's time for Dive to step up, admit his faults, and make some much needed changes.
29 Oct 18
@chaney3 saidDive speaks about his weakness as a Christian, but continues to do absolutely nothing about it.
Dive speaks about his weakness as a Christian, but continues to do absolutely nothing about it. He seems content to call himself a Christian, then act horrible every chance he gets.
It's time for Dive to step up, admit his faults, and make some much needed changes.
That seems to be true of the vast majority of Christians. It's what "salvation by faith" Christianity is about - though most if not all would refuse to admit it.
29 Oct 18
@chaney3 saidNot to get all psychological on you sir, but I think your last question was subconsciously directed at yourself.
Dive speaks about his weakness as a Christian, but continues to do absolutely nothing about it. He seems content to call himself a Christian, then act horrible every chance he gets.
It's time for Dive to step up, admit his faults, and make some much needed changes.
'It's time Chaney to step up, admit your faults, and make some much-needed changes.'
PM me if you like and I'll help you put a plan in place.
@divegeester saidYou don’t want to see it, for you this about your friend not your savior.
Are you going to, as you said, show I am lying, by copy pasting where FMF said he was pretending?
Or are you going to carry on dishonestly putting your words in his mouth??
29 Oct 18
@thinkofone saidExactly.
Dive speaks about his weakness as a Christian, but continues to do absolutely nothing about it.
That seems to be true of the vast majority of Christians. It's what "salvation by faith" Christianity is about - though most if not all would refuse to admit it.
Dive is content with being a terrible Christian, not making the glaring changes in his character that are so obviously needed.
29 Oct 18
@fmf saidDidn’t you go on as if you did have a divine experience for years, then you stopped? Was your faith based on something other then the divine before, like family or peer pressure?
I am an agnostic atheist so I don't find the divine revelation you believe in to be real but I certainly don't think you are pretending to find it real. I have long experience of thinking and feeling it was real (and not pretending to) so I do not think you are pretending to be a Christian. I think you are 100% sincere about your beliefs and how real it feels to you, just as I was 100% sincere about my beliefs and how real it felt to me.
29 Oct 18
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNo sir, my post was completely directed at Dive.
Not to get all psychological on you sir, but I think your last question was subconsciously directed at yourself.
'It's time Chaney to step up, admit your faults, and make some much-needed changes.'
PM me if you like and I'll help you put a plan in place.
29 Oct 18
@sonship saidEerily similar to the 12 steps.
@chaney3
Dive is content with being a terrible Christian, not making the glaring changes in his character that are so obviously needed.
Neither he, nor you, nor I am able to make glaring changes in our characters. We can open our hearts to allow the Savior Jesus to change us.