@kellyjay saidYou come across as a stubborn, embittered, dogma-driven religionist who cannot see past the end of his own nose.
I'm not bitter at FMF you are seeing things that are not there again to make your
views of others more valid. I'm actually grateful he didn't have a real relationship
with God in his past, that means there is still hope for him. Had the Spirit of God
actually resided in him, than right now there would be nothing for him his fate
would be sealed and his damnation settled.
@kellyjay saidYou have gone off half cock because you have misread something I wrote. I did not say I was pretending to be a Christian. You have got the wrong end of the stick.
I can repost it and show you, then will that show you lied about reading our
conversation? Ask again, but before you do, I would suggest you go to the very start
of our exchanges and read there first.
@fmf saidYou admit what you had wasn’t real and to go on would be pretending. You now deny that faith, you now deny God! So what you are admitting is you had to leave what wasn’t real for a belief system that is true in your estimation.
I no longer believe any of that. Stuff about "the One" is not real to me. Do you think I should be pretending to be a believer? Do you think I should be pretending that I feel I have turned my back on something real?
To suggest what you used to believe was as real for you as it is for everyone who believes it now, implies what they have is as fake as what you used to have. That they are pretending to have a relationship with God, they have to be pretending in your point of view since you deny God is real.
@kellyjay saidAre you going to, as you said, show I am lying, by copy pasting where FMF said he was pretending?
You admit what you had wasn’t real and to go on would be pretending. You now deny that faith, you now deny God! So what you are admitting is you had to leave what wasn’t real for a belief system that is true in your estimation.
To suggest what you used to believe was as real for you as it is for everyone who believes it now, implies what they have is as fake as what you ...[text shortened]... relationship with God, they have to be pretending in your point of view since you deny God is real.
Or are you going to carry on dishonestly putting your words in his mouth??
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@kellyjay saidI am an agnostic atheist so I don't find the divine revelation you believe in to be real but I certainly don't think you are pretending to find it real. I have long experience of thinking and feeling it was real (and not pretending to) so I do not think you are pretending to be a Christian. I think you are 100% sincere about your beliefs and how real it feels to you, just as I was 100% sincere about my beliefs and how real it felt to me.
To suggest what you used to believe was as real for you as it is for everyone who believes it now, implies what they have is as fake as what you used to have. That they are pretending to have a relationship with God, they have to be pretending in your point of view since you deny God is real.