Originally posted by @chaney3On the whole, the Bible is widely open to interpretation and filled with inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. Though most refuse to admit it, they pick and choose the verses and passages that support their beliefs and dismiss those that don't. In short, they use the Bible to create God in their own image. Those that are anti-LGBT create God as anti-LGBT.
What is going on with this issue?
If the Bible doesn't approve of same sex partners, then how are so many churches side stepping that point, and being LBGT friendly?
Does anyone know?
Is there a Biblical verse that they've found to defend their stance?
19 Aug 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneAre there any Bible verses that support LGBT?
On the whole, the Bible is widely open to interpretation and filled with inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. Though most refuse to admit it, they pick and choose the verses and passages that support their beliefs and dismiss those that don't. In short, they use the Bible to create God in their own image. Those that are anti-LGBT create God as anti-LGBT.
Originally posted by @chaney3Churches accept fat and gluttonous, the winebibbers and the alcoholics, the liars and the deceivers, the adulterers and fornicators. Why would they deny entry to any of those who sin?
What is going on with this issue?
If the Bible doesn't approve of same sex partners, then how are so many churches side stepping that point, and being LGBT friendly?
Does anyone know?
Is there a Biblical verse that they've found to defend their stance?
19 Aug 18
2 edits
Originally posted by @chaney3What are questionable are the verses that are used against LGBT.
Are there any Bible verses that support LGBT?
For LGBT affirmative passages, you start with this:
http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html
Why are you asking?
19 Aug 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI'm asking because I'm aware of affirming churches, and of United Church of Christ, but don't know how they get around what's taught in the Bible regarding same sex relationships.
What are questionable are the verses that are used against LGBT.
For LGBT affirmative passages, you start with this:
http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html
Why are you asking?
Originally posted by @chaney3It's pretty simple.
I'm asking because I'm aware of affirming churches, and of United Church of Christ, but don't know how they get around what's taught in the Bible regarding same sex relationships.
What's "taught in the Bible regarding same sex relationships" is open to interpretation.
Some churches don't agree with some other churches as to what's "taught in the Bible regarding same sex relationships".
- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 30605
19 Aug 18
-Removed-True enough. So how about Matthew 19:11-12?
'Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”
'Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order, first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who foreswear marriage to better serve God. Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males. But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way. Some might argue that Jesus was referring to males born without testicles, but this would be extremely rare. Moreover, this interpretation ignores how the term “born eunuchs” was used in other literature of the time.
In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behavior (just like modern gay men), and were thought by Rabbi Eliezer to be subject to “cure” (just like modern gays). Moreover, as we have also seen, eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire.'
http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html (With thanks to ToO).
