15 Dec 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobWhat you miss is that is that good people trust their neighbors and we're all stronger because of it. And if we misjudge you, well, we're all well-armed to handle the threat you bring.
Explain to me a situation in which a semi-automatic assault rifle is needed for defence.
Plus, haven't you seen the walking dead?
Originally posted by boononWas it you who said you could kill someone with your coffee cup? If not , someone did. Using your logic we should outlaw , knives (how can I cut my steak) , bats (no more baseball) and any other object that could potentially cause death by it's use.
Was it you who said you could kill someone with your coffee cup? If not , someone did. Using your logic we should outlaw , knives (how can I cut my steak) , bats (no more baseball) and any other object that could potentially cause death by it's use.
As far as nukes go I wholeheartedly wish they had never been invented.
Guns were made for killing, I ag a gun or a rock or a knife or a bomb or poison, and the list goes on. People are the problem.
No, my logic doesn't lead to that since the primary purpose of the items you mention that can cause death is not for killing. Guns and nukes on the other hand are different because when used as they were designed for they exist only to take away life
Guns were made for killing, I agree. However I believe they were made for killing animals ( deer , rabbit, ) and things for me to eat. Not for killing man. Sick individuals, very , very, very sick people use them to murder innocent people.
Only a very small subset of the guns that exist today could be said to have the purpose of killing animals. Sub machine guns, handguns, assault rifles, and so on... are specifically designed for killing humans.
These same sick people will kill with anything, whether it's a gun or a rock or a knife or a bomb or poison, and the list goes on. People are the problem.
But acknowledging people are a problem, and will always be a problem (as they always have) we need to make it more difficult for the average person to go on killing sprees. Taking away from them the means to acquire guns is a step in the right direction.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by AgergIn Ireland and in England, if the police stop you and they found a baseball bat
[b]Was it you who said you could kill someone with your coffee cup? If not , someone did. Using your logic we should outlaw , knives (how can I cut my steak) , bats (no more baseball) and any other object that could potentially cause death by it's use.
No, my logic doesn't lead to that since the primary purpose of the items you mention that can cause dea ...[text shortened]... ing sprees. Taking away from them the means to acquire guns is a step in the right direction.[/b]
or a cricket bat in your car they will ask you why is this here in your car.
If you say something like, it belongs to my son he plays the game,
must have left it in the car, fair enough.
But if you say it's mine and it's for self defence,
then they will arrest you for carrying an offensive weapon.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by googlefudgeYes I think the experiment of the USA's original ideas on ones owning their own guns are not working now. When this country originally wrote the laws the world was different and the weapons are very different now.
This is a good article on the need for doing and discussing something different in the wake of this tragedy.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2012/12/14/connecticut_shootings_gun_control_mental_health_and_our_responsibility_to.html
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodySounds like Japan.
In Ireland and in England, if the police stop you and they found a baseball bat
or a cricket bat in your car they will ask you why is this here in your car.
If you say something like, it belongs to my son he plays the game,
must have left it in the car, fair enough.
But if you say it's mine and it's for self defence,
then they will arrest you for carrying an offensive weapon.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by galveston75Honest people are very well shut off from the good stuff. It's just side-arms and 12-guage.
Yes I think the experiment of the USA's original ideas on ones owning their own guns are not working now. When this country originally wrote the laws the world was different and the weapons are very different now.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by stellspalfieNope not only doesn't it baffle me I don't care, you want to do without them
if guns are so important to your country, does it baffle you how people in countries like the uk manage to get through life with out them?
what exactly is the point in amercians carrying guns?
than do without them. It is a right, a birth right, it isn't something I have even
a tiny interest in giving up.
Kelly
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobAs I pointed out to you belore, God gives us our lives and sets the boundries
I fail to see how you can complain about violent video games and violent films when you yourself worhip a violent God. Is God's violence okay whilst video game and film violence bad? Is that how this works?
upon them, they will end here. We don't do that, as far as violence is concern
the times and cultures were quite different than and now as our relationship
with God today. There isn't a nation vs nation, or people vs people, it is each
of us and God, quite a different place to be than the OT world. As far as
violence is concern, it is everywhere still as people avoid God and His
Commandments, so with or without God you have to deal with it, but with
God there is a reason and an end to it coming...with just man it is our nature
and likely never to stop unless we kill ourselves by our own hands with some
war or something along those ends.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaybut what if you're being shot at by the entire town, will you have enough firepower in that scenario!?...I think everyone should be equipped with gatling guns and a crate of grenades...you know...just in case! 🙄
You are being shot at by more than one person and you out gun them.
Kelly
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by KellyJayDo you view violent books the same as you view violent films and video games Kelly?
As I pointed out to you belore, God gives us our lives and sets the boundries
upon them, they will end here. We don't do that, as far as violence is concern
the times and cultures were quite different than and now as our relationship
with God today. There isn't a nation vs nation, or people vs people, it is each
of us and God, quite a different place to ...[text shortened]... unless we kill ourselves by our own hands with some
war or something along those ends.
Kelly