Originally posted by josephwI'm not wrong, humans are not better than animals in every conceivable way, I just can't see how you stand by that. 😕
Admit defeat. You'll feel better!
And whatever you do don't take this silly debate so seriously. In the larger scheme of things it doesn't add up to a hill of beans anyway. 😉
Yeah, but I'm enjoying this. 🙂
Are you aware of the concept of predator and prey? Is the lion better than the gazelle since it is the dominant species in that habitat? NO, it depends on the very thing it kills. Nature provides us with the very food and shelter we are dependent on. To say we are better is to be completely removed from reality.
You say we are not nature? Have you ever taken a biology, anatomy, or even a science class? The ONLY thing that makes us different from animals is our higher reasoning ability. And yet, if you understood my first post, this doesn't make us "better".
So the only way you can say we are better than other animals is cause God said so, right?
Originally posted by Bad wolfI can live with that.
I like to think that Humans are part of nature, part of the ecosystem, damaging the ecosystem will ultimately damage us: and that is why I think we should take care of it.
We are stewards to it.
I think it is very important to recognise that, yes we are very different than animals, and in many ways we are better than them, but also, in many other ways ...[text shortened]... heir intriguing abilities and use technology to replicate this, and maybe further build upon it.
Originally posted by Bad wolfWell, ok. But I think we got lost in the semantics of it.
I'm not wrong, humans are not better than animals in every conceivable way, I just can't see how you stand by that. 😕
Yeah, but I'm enjoying this. 🙂
I'm enjoying it too. If we can learn from each other then we are the better for it. 😉
Originally posted by Zander 88No. I'm saying we are superior based on experience.
Are you aware of the concept of predator and prey? Is the lion better than the gazelle since it is the dominant species in that habitat? NO, it depends on the very thing it kills. Nature provides us with the very food and shelter we are dependent on. To say we are better is to be completely removed from reality.
You say we are not nature? Have you ever ...[text shortened]...
So the only way you can say we are better than other animals is cause God said so, right?
I will even go so far as to say we are dominant over even nature.
That should get you going! 😀
Originally posted by josephwlol
No. I'm saying we are superior based on experience.
I will even go so far as to say we are dominant over even nature.
That should get you going! 😀
If we were dominant over nature, then we would be Gods, no?
What exactly do you mean by experience? I don't deny that we are capable of doing much more stuff than an animal could even dream of, but that doesn't make us superior, just different.
Originally posted by josephwThere is only so much we can do to nature before it starts to bite back; we are ultimately dependant on it.
No. I'm saying we are superior based on experience.
I will even go so far as to say we are dominant over even nature.
That should get you going! 😀
Consider Global Warming...
Originally posted by Zander 88Now we need to define superior within the context of this discussion. By comparison we are certainly different. Everything is different in some way or else everything would be the same.
lol
If we were dominant over nature, then we would be Gods, no?
What exactly do you mean by experience? I don't deny that we are capable of doing much more stuff than an animal could even dream of, but that doesn't make us superior, just different.
But by superior I mean in capability, in knowledge, in ability to do not only good but to do evil.
And what I mean by dominant over nature is that we can create artificial environments to ward off the effects of nature.
And please, don't think of me as a crazy christian. I may be crazy, and I'm a christian, but I'm not a crazy christian! 🙄
Originally posted by Bad wolfYa, global warming. 30 years ago they said it was going to freeze!
There is only so much we can do to nature before it starts to bite back; we are ultimately dependant on it.
Consider Global Warming...
You'll see. It's just politics my friend.
I agree, we are definitely dependent on nature, and natures God.
Originally posted by josephwSo you don't think it is happening? 🙂
Ya, global warming. 30 years ago they said it was going to freeze!
You'll see. It's just politics my friend.
I agree, we are definitely dependent on nature, and natures God.
'and natures God.'
- we disagree here. 🙂
Originally posted by Bad wolfI'm serious, what is the evidence for that myth? The earth has gotten
Lol, seriously? 😉
hotter by what in the last X years that we have been looking at that
data? How long have we been able to monitor the 'earth's' temp to
even draw a baseline on what is or isn't a normal cycle when it comes
to the temp? People are willing to turn several of the more productive
nations economies in the world head over heals to correct something
that may just be between the ears of the guy who invented the
internet and a few others.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayAs much as I'd like to talk about this, I don't think this thread is appropriate. 🙂
I'm serious, what is the evidence for that myth? The earth has gotten
hotter by what in the last X years that we have been looking at that
data? How long have we been able to monitor the 'earth's' temp to
even draw a baseline on what is or isn't a normal cycle when it comes
to the temp? People are willing to turn several of the more productive
nations ...[text shortened]... may just be between the ears of the guy who invented the
internet and a few others.
Kelly
Originally posted by Bad wolfIt's all political Bad wolf. It's part of the leftist agenda. I've been watching this thing for decades. Don't be afraid. That's what they are trying to make you feel. We are not going to effect the earths climate change by even 1%.
So you don't think it is happening? 🙂
'and natures God.'
- we disagree here. 🙂
I know you have no reason to believe me. Just give it time.
But you can believe me about God though! 😉