23 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI have no idea if you are worthy of having a conversation with about this topic.
You're the one with all these so called studies, surely you know?
Do you accept IQ tests as valid? Will you confront an argument that is based on current scientific understanding?
Until we know if you believe in like... appraising truth via scientific testing and data, until we know that you want to have a conversation about what any of this might mean...
Why would I agree to talk about this at all?
You just want me to dance around within the realm of yoru witch hunting questions and the likes.
Not interested in that style of conversation where I make statements and you're like "ZOMG racist ZOMG how terrible. Muh current year."
23 Feb 18
How about you write something at length and if it look slike you want to talk about it I'll talk about it.
But for a discussion to be rational both parties need to look like they want to have it.
You don't seem like a guy who wants to discuss anything but just wants to sit on the outside, take potshots and be selctively outraged.
23 Feb 18
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Originally posted by @philokaliaWe can move on when you have answered this question which you have been frantically dodging for several pages ..
Do you accept IQ tests as valid? Will you confront an argument that is based on current scientific understanding?
Are you a member of an ethnic group with what you say are "higher than average IQs" or are you a member of an ethnic group with "lower than average IQs?”
23 Feb 18
Alright,m then let it be known that we aren't moving on.
I answered the question, and then I clarified that I don't know when you trid to emphasize some other aspect.
And I clarified I do not want to play some immature word game where I HAVE TO ansewr LOADED questions and you get to dictate the entire pace of the discussion.
That's not a discussion. I'd be an idiot to agree to do that.
But part of me almost wants to play because I'd like to see what you would do.
23 Feb 18
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Originally posted by @philokaliaYou have not answered the question Jacob. You brought up this up issue of differing IQs across differing ethnic groups and you were asked which group you are in. Where have you said which group you are in?
I answered the question, and then I clarified that I don't know when you trid to emphasize some other aspect.
Originally posted by @divegeesterRight, you just may wind up on a cross.
I am always wary of extremes.
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI'm white.
You have not answered the question Jacob. You brought up this up issue of differing IQs across differing ethnic groups and you were asked which group you are in. Where have you said which group you are in?
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaBeing a "white" American, do you believe you are likely to have a higher IQ than a "black" American who has comparable education and life experience as you?
I'm white.
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelIt's a cat.
Speaking of IQ's the guy still asleep in my bed has an IQ of 168. Do u guys get it yet?
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfLOL, why did you put white in quotation marks? Do you not believe that white people exist?
Being a "white" American, do you believe you are likely to have a higher IQ than a "black" American who has comparable education and life experience as you?
Plus, stupid question.
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaIt's a question very much on the same level of discourse that you seem to be motivated to operate on. Your "race". "IQ". You being "white". Simpletons. People with PhDs in your church.
Plus, stupid question.
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaIn Indonesia, we have over 300 ethnic groups. There are four major ones here on the island I live on. How many "white" ethnic groups do you think there are?
LOL, why did you put white in quotation marks? Do you not believe that white people exist?
24 Feb 18
Originally posted by @fmfOh no, not at all. I am not concerned with these things unless there is a context for discussion, my friend.
It's a question very much on the same level of discourse that you seem to be motivated to operate on. Your "race". "IQ". You being "white". Simpletons. People with PhDs in your church.
It is also very noteworthy that IQ can fluctuate dramatically based on circumstance. I certainly believe that.
What do you believe about IQ?
I can't get Dive to answer and you're like his dad and mentor. How about you take point on this one, FMF. Hold his hand through the process for him.