Jehovah's Witness a Masonic Offshoot ?

the outcome?

1. Jaywill was caught posting misinformation in an attempt to give Robbie a taste of his own medicine for making a post about Nominal Christians lynching people on Sunday afternoons right after attending church.

2. Robbie learned why Jaywill professes much of the things he does. He is deeply influenced by a person bearing the name Witness Lee who has a penchant for litigation and acquiring church property.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie

1. Jaywill was caught posting misinformation in an attempt to give Robbie a taste of his own medicine for making a post about Nominal Christians lynching people on Sunday afternoons right after attending church.

1. Jaywill was caught posting misinformation in an attempt to give Robbie a taste of his own medicine for making a post about Nominal Christians lynching people on Sunday afternoons right after attending church.

2. Robbie learned why Jaywill professes much of the things he does. He is deeply influenced by a person bearing the name Witness Lee who has a penchant for litigation and acquiring church property.

Originally posted by sonship
Before I examine Robbie's comments let me first give my brief take on where thread has led for me.

1.) I don't know if Charles Russell was a Mason. He was leaning in his early years to gnostic mystical teachings akin to what many say are the staple of the very secretive Freemasonry group.

2.) I would say Jehovah's Witnesses are embarressed by the lea ...[text shortened]... ts/stark.html

Now tell me where you are getting this information about land disputes please.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie

What does the scriptures say about going to court against other brothers jaywill? can we compare that with the actions of your mentor Witness Lee?

Copied without permission from "Repeating False Witness in Accusing the Local Churches of “Litigiousness”

A Response to Norman Geisler and Ron Rhodes’ Defense of the “Open Letter” and Critique of the Christian Research Journal’s Reassessment of the Local Churches" which is at -

http://www.contendingforthefaith.org/responses/Geisler-Rhodes/false-witness-re-litigiousness.html

For years certain circles within the Christian countercult movement have cultivated the perception that the local churches employ litigation and the threat of litigation to silence critics. As supporting evidence, they rely on a list of purported lawsuits and threats of lawsuits published by the Spiritual Counterfeits Project (SCP) in 1983 to rally support for defense of their book The God-Men, which was subsequently ruled to be libelous.1 SCP’s list appears to be based on a list that was produced in a contemporaneous litigation concerning The Mindbenders: A Look at Current Cults (Mindbenders), which was subsequently retracted with an apology from the publisher in an agreement signed by its author, Jack Sparks.2

Neither Sparks nor SCP provided supporting documentation for the charges in their respective lists. Their compilations should have been suspect, given their obvious bias in the matter. Nevertheless, this list has been accepted as fact by the critics of the local churches and has been subsequently revised and republished in various forms by Jim Moran, the Cult Awareness & Information Center, the Bereans Apologetics Research Ministry, Harvest House Publishers, and Eric Pement. These largely undocumented claims have in themselves sufficed as evidence of the charge of litigiousness among the countercult community. Most recently, Norman Geisler and Ron Rhodes have endorsed Eric Pement’s version of this list, saying:



The Local Church (LC), known for its litigious activity in threatening to sue (and actually suing) individuals and groups that call them a "cult"…

and:

Noted cult researcher Eric Pement has listed numerous examples of Christian groups that were threatened or sued by the LC, most of which CRI [Christian Research Institute] did not even attempt to refute in its Journal articles.3

Voices of Confirmation That is Christian scholars or workers vouching that the local churches have an orthodox Christian theology:


http://www.contendingforthefaith.org/eBooks/Voices%20of%20Confirmation.pdf

Sample :

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Edwin S. Gaustad
is an Emeritus Professor of History and Religious Studies at the University of California, Riverside. He has also served as president of the American Society of Church History and has authored over a dozen books including New Historical Atlas of Religion in America and Church and State in America.

“From my observation, I conclude that the Local Church [sic] stands in the tradition of evangelical Christianity, of the Protestant emphasis on biblical authority, of the great Christian mystics’ and pietists’ concern for the inner life, of the millennia-old expectation of a New Age, and of born-again, experiential religion. They meet together, pray together, sing and study together, and grow together. They labor to be loyal to their particular vision of the Christian life. It seems enough. It also sounds very much like the free exercise of religion.”


The Experts Speak Concerning Witness Lee and the Local Churches
, p. 200
Billy Graham and Carl F. H. Henry founded
Christianity Today
in 1956 to represent the views of theologically conservative Christians. Today it is the leading evangelical newsmagazine and offers insight and commentary on a wide range of issues, trends, and current events.
“Just to be clear, the Local Church/Living Stream is not even close to being a cult—so their indignation is understandable. They loyally follow the teaching of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee. Lee’s writings can be confusing and (to our minds, anyway) contradictory at points. But [Christianity Today] editors have asked Local Church leaders doctrinal questions, and their answers were straightforward and satisfying. We agree with a Fuller Theological Seminary study that concluded the Local Church represents a ‘genuine, historical, biblical Christian faith in every essential aspect."

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
What does the scriptures say about going to court against other brothers jaywill? can we compare that with the actions of your mentor Witness Lee?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I fail to see where you answer the question Jaywill.

If I ascertain that you are putting forth an honest effort to look at these matters from different angles [edited], I'd be happy to give some time to this last request. I'm ready.

My question is are you reasonably ready ?

Originally posted by sonship
You failed to see it because I have not yet answered it specifically.

I did not see a answer to what I asked you, to ascertain if you had read any one of the articles on your own. I told you I did not want to play perpetual Whack-A-Mole going from complaint to complaint.

I did not see an answer to figure out if you were reasonably ready. ...[text shortened]... i]NEVER[/i] got a reply from last week about "What is God like, if you experience God?" Did I ?

Ok, I'll answer the first part for you,

The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 1 Corinthians 6 - NIV

and the second although I surmise.

Witness Lee has not the freedom of speech to set himself up as a teacher of Gods word because he stands disqualified by his conduct. I say this not out of malice but in truthfulness, he would never qualify as a Christian Elder according to the standards set out in scripture. I really sincerely feel some pity for you Jaywill. You are a sincere Christian believer and love the Christ but this man has acted like a wolf among the flock. I don't expect you to accept this for clearly you have some emotional attachment to his teachings, but it it what it is.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Ok its self evident that you are embarrassed to answer the question because it will incriminate your spiritual teacher. That's fine I would feel evasive and embarrassed as well. You were not asked to play any games, what you were actually asked was.

1. what does the Bible say about Christians prosecuting fellow believers in litigation.
2. How does that reflect on your spiritual teacher, Witness Lee?

Originally posted by sonship
Why should I be embarrassed?

Mary espoused to her husband Joseph was found pregnant by the Holy Spirit - an awkward situation. Why should the woman of faith be embarrassed?

Paul had to be let down from a building in a basket out of a window to escape enemies of the Gospel. Not very dignified an escape for an apostle of God. Why should the man of ...[text shortened]... cuss with you your brother to brother court challenge. Off to enjoy the Lord Jesus this morning.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
What does the scriptures say about going to court against other brothers jaywill? can we compare that with the actions of your mentor Witness Lee?

Originally posted by Suzianne
What does scripture say about showing love for your Christian brother? And what about "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself"?

You are clearly the pot calling the kettle black here. How dare you bring up scripture about treatment of your Christian brothers when you [b]refuse to follow Christ's commandment on this yourself? Hypocrite.[/b]