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Originally posted by chaney3Fair enough! 🙂
Wow. Thank you Suzianne. I appreciate the time and effort you took with your response.
I have admittedly been posting with a frustrated and angry tone, and reading your reply has at least calmed that. I will take the time and reflect on what you wrote.
I pray that we all find wisdom to place our love and trust in God, so that he may lead us to understanding, and maybe a little personal peace on the way.
"... I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." -- John 10:10, KJV
This is the entire point. Life, not death. And a more abundant life, at that. 🙂
Edit: Sure, bring it on! Send me a game at your convenience.
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I'm not sure what the problem is with understanding the trinity. We don't see the word 'trinity' in scripture, but this doesn't mean the concept isn't clearly presented and understood.
John 1:1-18English Standard Version (ESV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A1-18&version=ESV
Originally posted by lemon limeA little empathy goes a long way, though.
I'm not sure what the problem is with understanding the trinity. We don't see the word 'trinity' in scripture, but this doesn't mean the concept isn't clearly presented and understood.
John 1:1-18English Standard Version (ESV)
I don't imagine that those who say they have a problem understanding it are lying.
Originally posted by SuzianneSuzianne.....would you mind starting the game??? It is a 'redemptive' game. Thank you.
Fair enough! 🙂
I pray that we all find wisdom to place our love and trust in God, so that he may lead us to understanding, and maybe a little personal peace on the way.
"... I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." -- John 10:10, KJV
This is the entire point. Life, not death. And a more abundant life, at that. 🙂
Edit: Sure, bring it on! Send me a game at your convenience.
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Originally posted by SuzianneI don't mean to imply anyone is lying. I can see how someone might think 'the Word' could mean the holy Spirit, but that first passage from the book of John is not referring to the holy Spirit.
A little empathy goes a long way, though.
I don't imagine that those who say they have a problem understanding it are lying.
The Spirit is a force as well as an entity, but interestingly is not given an identifying name such as 'Father' or 'Son'. But the fact that it can be offended is significant in that an offense to the Father and Son can be forgiven, but offending the Spirit cannot.
Some religious leaders were saying Jesus was able to heal through the power of Satan, and Jesus warned (not condemned, but warned) them that offending the Spirit would not be forgiven in this life or the next. So it seems obvious to me that attributing the works of Satan to the Spirit is an unforgivable offense, and it's equally obvious that the Spirit is more than just a force. A force which is simply a force and nothing else cannot be offended... but a sentient force can.
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Originally posted by chaney3
Oneness can exist among Christian brothers.....that is merely for those brothers who believe the same thing.
Are you cynical?
The time for oneness is in this age. It is not postponed to some other age. So there is no cause to be cynical.
Christ is a living Person, the Head of the Body. And Paul told us to hold fast the Head. That is not doctrinal agreement on every conceivable miniscule detail. Oneness comes out of living in the realm of this living Person.
I am finding that when I ask a question on this forum.....NOT one person seems to give a direct answer. Everybody replies with even further 'parables'.
I am not concerned about getting you, as soon as possible, being conversant on the Trinity. This may be a demand that you are putting on yourself.
Now I have to suspend fellowship for a moment.
