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Originally posted by RJHindsJesus has judged god to be good?
Jesus is the judge and he tells us that God is good.
Was that Jesus acting as a man?
or
Jesus acting as god?
Originally posted by Great King RatIs another cover of the "bad things happen so there is no god" awesome thinking?
Maybe you should try to answer those questions for yourself. I'm more than happy to give my view, but I'm not the one believing there's this all-seeing divine being.
My view: the irony part is that the children had just returned from worshipping God in church. Gosh must have had a chuckle knowing these prayboys were soon going to die anyway.
As ...[text shortened]... or a parent to let their six year old child cross a busy road than their 18 year old child. You?
Originally posted by divegeesterAs was made clear before that's a gross and inaccurate over simplification..
Is another cover of the "bad things happen so there is no god" awesome thinking?
Originally posted by RJHindsNo that doesn't wash either.
Jesus is the judge and he tells us that God is good.
Originally posted by divegeesterAh, dude, for real?? Check out page two where that question was already asked.
Is another cover of the "bad things happen so there is no god" awesome thinking?
Originally posted by Great King Rat"God likes a bit of irony, doesn't he?" GKR's OP
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/18/world/americas/colombia-bus-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
(CNN) -- A bus packed with [b]children burst into flames in Colombia on Sunday, killing at least 32 people, officials said.
The bus was picking up children from an event at a church in Fundacion, Colombia, when the blaze began, Col. Adan Le ...[text shortened]... victims.
"The country is in mourning," he said.
God likes a bit of irony, doesn't he?[/b]
Originally posted by wolfgang59For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
Jesus has judged god to be good?
Was that Jesus acting as a man?
or
Jesus acting as god?
Originally posted by googlefudgeJesus is the Son of God and the son of man; and we Christians know we can trust what Jesus said because He was crucified to death and raised Himself to life again after three days just like He said He would.
No that doesn't wash either.
Particularly if you belong to the group that believes that JC IS god.
But either way you are simply shifting the problem from one being to another.
If your answer to the question "how do you know if god is good" is to say
"because JC says so"...
Then your problem has gone from simply demonstrating that god is go ...[text shortened]... thfully claim that god is good.
If we can do that then you can't tell us we cannot judge god.
Originally posted by SuzianneI disagree ... I have judged your notion of "God". My judgement is that the terms: "omnipotent", "omniscient", "omni-benevolent", and "perfect{, ly moral}" are not consistent with the claimed actions (or inactions) of this entity
Man cannot judge God, period.
Originally posted by Great King RatI don't real every thread on this forum dude. And despite your protestations your position is basically: a bad thing has happened, therefore there is no god". Thumbs down all you atheists, but there it is and you know it's true. Weak thinking.
Ah, dude, for real?? Check out page two where that question was already asked.
Seriously, you people really just read whatever the hell you want to read, don't you?
Edit: do you believe that god could have stopped this tragedy, divegeester?
Originally posted by divegeesterMore accurately,
I don't real every thread on this forum dude. And despite your protestations your position is basically: a bad thing has happened, therefore there is no god". Thumbs down all you atheists, but there it is and you know it's true. Weak thinking.
Originally posted by divegeesterI understand you don't read every thread. I ask "for real?" because I find it unbelievable that you would draw that conclusion on the basis of what I've said. And here you go do it again.
I don't real every thread on this forum dude. And despite your protestations your position is basically: a bad thing has happened, therefore there is no god". Thumbs down all you atheists, but there it is and you know it's true. Weak thinking.
Originally posted by Great King RatNow you're going to go through Plato's dilemma aren't you. Yawn. Jeez try something new if you really want to convince me of something.
I understand you don't read every thread. I ask "for real?" because I find it unbelievable that you would draw that conclusion on the basis of what I've said. And here you go do it again.
My lack of belief is not influenced in the slightest by good or bad things happening. If a bus drove of a cliff and all 32 children would survive, it still wouldn ...[text shortened]... exists.
I'll ask again: do you believe that god could have stopped this tragedy, divegeester?
Originally posted by divegeesterThe point I'm making right now is the same one I made at the start of this thread, divegeester. It is you guys that wish to put a label on me. And if the label no longer works, you just choose a different label. Meanwhile, you carefully sidestep the question I'm asking you.
Now you're going to go through Plato's dilemma aren't you. Yawn. Jeez try something new if you really want to convince me of something.
Originally posted by Great King RatWe believe God does what He wants to for a higher purpose because His thinking is higher than our thinking and His ways are higher than our ways. So what you think is a tragedy may actually be a blessing.
The point I'm making right now is the same one I made at the start of this thread, divegeester. It is you guys that wish to put a label on me. And if the label no longer works, you just choose a different label. Meanwhile, you carefully sidestep the question I'm asking you.
I'll ask again: do you believe that god could have stopped this tragedy, di ...[text shortened]... en't you the one always attacking the JWs in particular for not answering straight up questions?