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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Robbie, stop being a moron, i know it's hard for you.

My first question was, do you believe homosexuality is a sin?

Do you believe gay people will be aloud into heaven?
just thought you may like the opportunity to go public noobster, 😉

yes homosexuality is a serious sin

no i do not believe gay people will be aloud into heaven

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
on the contrary my position is perfectly clear. a person that is a dedicated member of the congregation that succumbs to a serious sin, whether it is gluttony, immorality, homosexuality whatever, shall be given the opportunity and assistance that is needed to help them overcome their particular problem, if they refuse the help, they are clearly unre ...[text shortened]... the principle behind the blending of garments, if it exists, seeing that you are so taken by it.
This is mostly just double talk. You're just dancing around the questions and speaking in platitudes.

Do you actively speak to all the overweight members of your congregation to give them the "opportunity and assistance" that is needed to "help them overcome their particular problem"? What help have you offered them? Has anyone refused this "help"?

If an overweight person wishes to become part of the congregation, are they refused membership until they no longer feel compelled to overeat? What constitutes demonstrated repentance? Must they lose all the weight or only demonstrate that the weight is coming off and claim that they no longer have the compulsion?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
just thought you may like the opportunity to go public noobster, 😉

yes homosexuality is a serious sin

no i do not believe gay people will be aloud into heaven
Robbie, Robbie, Robbie.

The little respect i had for you Robbie has now disappeared down the toilet like a big turd.

Shame on you.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
This is mostly just double talk.

Do you actively speak to all the overweight members of your congregation to give them the "opportunity and assistance" that is needed to "help them overcome their particular problem"? What help have you offered them? Has anyone refused this "help"?

If an overweight person wishes to become part of the congregation, a ...[text shortened]... monstrate that the weight is coming off and claim that they no longer have the compulsion?
you are confusing a moral issue with a physical one, which leads me to believe that you do not know the full spectrum of the term gluttony, nor it application, perhaps you could begin there

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Robbie, Robbie, Robbie.

The little respect i had for you Robbie has now disappeared down the toilet like a big turd.

Shame on you.
Lol, noobster, friendly friend, i did not make the rules, i am just a messenger, why shoot me just because you don't like the message!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you are confusing a moral issue with a physical one, which leads me to believe that you do not know the full spectrum of the term gluttony, nor it application, perhaps you could begin there
You continue to dance around the questions with double talk and by speaking in platitudes.

Explain what you mean by "confusing a moral issue with a physical one" and how this applies to both homosexuality and gluttony (specifically overeating).

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
just thought you may like the opportunity to go public noobster, 😉

yes homosexuality is a serious sin

no i do not believe gay people will be aloud into heaven
ugh..
I had so much respect for you robbie...
(what do you mean by SERIOUS sin? as opposed to waging war? or hording food while others starve?)

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
You continue to dance around the questions with double talk and by speaking in platitudes.

Explain what you mean by "confusing a moral issue with a physical one" and how this applies to both homosexuality and gluttony (specifically overeating).
you state that overweight is a sign of gluttony, not always the case, gluttony takes many forms, for example alcohol abuse may be deemed gluttonous, but the alcoholic may not be overweight, thus you are confusing a moral issue with a physical one, gluttony is a moral issue. i will say it once more, we had better start with an appraisal of the term gluttony, otherwise, you will never discern how it may apply.

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
ugh..
I had so much respect for you robbie...
(what do you mean by SERIOUS sin? as opposed to waging war? or hording food while others starve?)
people people people, calm down here, i did not make the rules, God did, why shoot the messenger simply because you do not like the message, i am flesh and blood, the same as you!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you state that overweight is a sign of gluttony, not always the case, gluttony takes many forms, for example alcohol abuse may be deemed gluttonous, but the alcoholic may not be overweight, thus you are confusing a moral issue with a physical one, gluttony is a moral issue. i will say it once more, we had better start with an appraisal of the term gluttony, otherwise, you will never discern how it may apply.
One of the forms of gluttony is overindulging when eating in which case being overweight is a sign. I even said "specifically overeating".

Whether or not other forms of gluttony, such as alcohol abuse, show the same signs is irrelevant.

You continue to try to dance around the questions.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes homosexuality is a serious sin

no i do not believe gay people will be aloud into heaven
Oh, so you say only because you are christian. Christian people are always the same... 😞

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
people people people, calm down here, i did not make the rules, God did, why shoot the messenger simply because you do not like the message, i am flesh and blood, the same as you!
Oh please. The double standard is purely your own. The double standard is a sign of your bigotry which is also purely your own.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
One of the forms of gluttony is overindulging when eating in which case being overweight is a sign. I even said "specifically overeating".

Whether or not other forms of gluttony, such as alcohol abuse, show the same signs is irrelevant.

You continue to try to dance around the questions.
therefore you are limiting your interpretation to one specific aspect, why would you do that? also there are many other medical reasons why a person my 'look', overweight, for example water retention, slow metabolism etc. etc., plus, and this is the most damning refutation of your approach, we are counselled not to judge by any mere appearance to the eyes,

'Stop judging from the outward appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.” John 7:24- the words of Christ i believe.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
people people people, calm down here, i did not make the rules, God did, why shoot the messenger simply because you do not like the message, i am flesh and blood, the same as you!
Becasue you make the choice to follow them like a mindless drone.

You spout in the science forum how you're a 'original thinker' and how the rest of us just regurgitate other people's thoughts whilst you do the same.

I didn't know this part of JW's views, i pity the next one that steps on my doorstep!!!!

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Oh, so you say only because you are christian. Christian people are always the same... 😞
the point is worth repeating, i did not make the rules, God did, if he says that homosexuality is wrong, then who am I to argue with him!

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