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-Removed-I disagree, God has always had an organisation since the Jews were chosen as his representative and as Paul states, 'God is a god of order, not of disorder' - 1 Corinthians 14:33 and having been a nominal Christian for the first twenty or so years of my life and having met them on their doorsteps I can tell how utterly empty and devoid it is. I am not looking for any door out as you presumptuously proclaim.
The mere fact that you cannot cite a single teaching that you have revised is evidence enough that your faith is stagnant. Your friend FMF is a case in point, a Christian for twenty years and he knows practically nothing about the book that formed the basis of his faith, and here you are talking of a way out. Incredulous. Please believe me when i say this, nominal Christianity has nothing to offer anyone and I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
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Originally posted by Captain StrangeOh Captain my parents are not Jehovah witnesses and have never been Jehovahs witnesses. I am the only one from my biological family that is a Jehovahs witness after making a diligent search of other religions and coming to an informed decision in my early twenties. Perhaps if you were not so presumptuous you may have ascertained this before you made your comment which now looks rather silly.
Nicely put.
Robbie is smart but is hemmed in by what his parents told him to believe.
This is the second post that you have proclaimed as nicely put that was infact ill conceived.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFair, apologise for making presumptions
Oh Captain my parents are not Jehovah witnesses and have never been Jehovahs witnesses. I am the only one from my biological family that is a Jehovahs witness after making a diligent search of other religions and coming to an informed decision in my early twenties. Perhaps if you were not so presumptuous you may have ascertained this before you made ...[text shortened]...
This is the second post that you have proclaimed as nicely put that was infact ill conceived.
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Originally posted by Captain Strangeoh please Captain no need to apologise, I don't blame you its the company you keep, that divesgeester is no good. 😀
Fair, apologise for making presumptions
You know I was once doing work in a ladys house and she looked pregnant, so i asked her when her child was due. She never said anything and I assumed that she never heard me, it turned out that she has stomach cancer. I met her husband sitting on the doorstep a month later weeping his eyes out. She was gone. This was a painful lesson in trying to refrain from assuming anything. It has stuck with me even these many years later.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks robbie.
oh please Captain no need to apologise, I don't blame you its the company you keep, that divesgeester is no good. 😀
BTW how does the not celebrating christs birth (christmas day) but going ott at easter work.
I get the risen thing but wasn't the birth like important. Just asking.
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Originally posted by Captain StrangeChrist was not born in December for a start, its just another attempt by the church to Christianise a pagan holiday. Same as Easter too! from the goddess Astarte, its a pure fertility thing, we do not celebrate either. Christ rather interestingly only stated to his disciples that they should celebrate the memorial of his death, he gave no directions concerning celebrating pagan holidays. I have heard some excuses over the years by Christians on why they celebrate pagan holidays, but none of them are very convincing.
Thanks robbie.
BTW how does the not celebrating christs birth (christmas day) but going ott at easter work.
I get the risen thing but wasn't the birth like important. Just asking.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow did you get from having no belief about it to having a belief that they are not wrong about it - and how did you get from having no belief about it having something to do with 1914, to you saying you do have a belief that it has something to do with 1914 - all in the space of a mere few days? These changes in your stance were the result of "deliberation" in the last few days?
You asked me a question you got a clear answer. I stated i don't believe they were wrong that the generation has and I quote 'something' (your words) to do with the prophecy that Christ mentioned. Clearly if they are mentioned in the same prophecy, they must have 'something', to do with the prophecy unless of course Jesus just put them in there becau ...[text shortened]... Jesus was referring to when he stated, 'this generation', at Matthew 24:34 then let it be heard.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen you say things like this, I know you're having difficulty giving a straight answer to a straight question about inconsistencies in what you have said. You wear your need to deflect right there on your sleeve.
Your friend FMF is a case in point, a Christian for twenty years and he knows practically nothing about the book that formed the basis of his faith...
Originally posted by FMFOn the contrary you are living proof of the validity of my statement. How anyone can spend twenty years as an alleged Christian and remain biblically illiterate is incredible.
When you say things like this, I know you're having difficulty giving a straight answer to a straight question about inconsistencies in what [b]you have said. You wear your need to deflect right there on your sleeve.[/b]