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paul on the road to damacus

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What is the point of this question that you're asking ThinkOfOne?

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
Me too. Seems more reasonable to think that he just made it up in an effort to further his ends.
Why would you trust anything in scripture if you can just blow off who and what you don’t like?


Originally posted by @chaney3
What is the point of this question that you're asking ThinkOfOne?
DG just likes to follow me around from thread to thread asking the same off-topic question over and over again.

He said he derives enjoyment when I ignore him. I can only take him at his word.

Evidently the enjoyment that he derives IS the point.

Seems pretty senseless to me too, but who am I to deny him that enjoyment?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Who wrote about Paul’s conversion, Paul or Luke? Remember Luke the doctor who wrote the book of Luke too? Peter in his letters referred to Paul’s letters as well.
But how does everything logically follow? Walk me through your thinking.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Why would you trust anything in scripture if you can just blow off who and what you don’t like?
I've posted the following or something similar many a time, but I'll post it again. You've never seen it before?

By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within itself. I don't share that view of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around them. At best, they can merely echo His words. At worst, they deviate from His words and at times substantially so.   

The truth in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry still rings out loud and clear despite the corruptions that were introduced by the NT writers. The core of His gospel are contained in the parables, explanations of the parables, the Sermon on the Mount, passages where Jesus is explicitly describing the Kingdom and what living in the Kingdom entails, passages where Jesus is explicitly describing what is required for "eternal life" / living in the Kingdom etc. In short, passages where Jesus is explicitly preaching the vision of His gospel.   

By limiting the Bible to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry and those words that are consistent with those words, most of the inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions are weeded out.


BTW you reject scripture. You're just dishonest about it and pretend that you don't.


Originally posted by @thinkofone
DG just likes to follow me around from thread to thread asking the same off-topic question over and over again.

He said he derives enjoyment when I ignore him. I can only take him at his word.

Evidently the enjoyment that he derives IS the point.

Seems pretty senseless to me too, but who am I to deny him that enjoyment?
My guess is that if you say that you believe what Jesus said, then by default, you would need to believe God exists.

It interested me.


Originally posted by @chaney3
My guess is that if you say that you believe what Jesus said, then by default, you would need to believe God exists.

It interested me.
Do you think that you'd similarly derive enjoyment by following me around from thread to thread asking that question and having me ignore it?


Originally posted by @thinkofone
Do you think that you'd similarly derive enjoyment by following me around from thread to thread asking that question and having me ignore it?
No.
But if you and Dive had a debate about your belief in God, I missed it.
The question seems reasonable, based upon whether someone believes what Jesus said.


Originally posted by @chaney3
No.
But if you and Dive had a debate about your belief in God, I missed it.
The question seems reasonable, based upon whether someone believes what Jesus said.
Yeah, I don't think that that'd work for me either.

BTW a key word in my earlier post was "off-topic".


Acts 9:7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.


just because something is written on a page does not mean it happened, or that it was not exagerated or that was not added to entirely.

if the words on a written page were proof of a fact then the holy koran or the book of mormon would also be the gospel truth.


Originally posted by @thinkofone
But how does everything logically follow? Walk me through your thinking.
You dismiss people and scripture for whatever cause is between your ears.
You want to dismiss Paul than all the support for Paul within scripture has to go too.
From Luke, to Peter, to Jesus you are placing whatever is between your ears above them.


Originally posted by @mister-moggy
just because something is written on a page does not mean it happened, or that it was not exagerated or that was not added to entirely.

if the words on a written page were proof of a fact then the holy koran or the book of mormon would also be the gospel truth.
You think they compared to scriptures within the Bible they don't.
Single sources for both Mormon and Koran, each written in their individual time frames.
While the Bible is 66 books, ~40 authors, written in a span of about 1500 years, written
in three languages, by authors who were from all walks of life. It is also one of the most
attacked books in human history yet, it is here. Along with history, medical knowledge,
among other things that cause it to be singular among human transcripts.


Originally posted by @thinkofone
I've posted the following or something similar many a time, but I'll post it again. You've never seen it before?

By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within itself. I don't share that view of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around them. At best ...[text shortened]...


BTW you reject scripture. You're just dishonest about it and pretend that you don't.
The thing about Jesus, if you actually paid any attention to His words you'd see that they
came from His Father as well as His works. While He was here among us He was a man,
Christ was walking among us, the Son of God. When he was leaving He said that He was
going to send the Holy Spirit to us who would then live in us as the Father and the Son do.

It isn't a messaged passed down from one guy to another with those that belong to God,
but a very close relationship with the Eternal God. The scripture is clear, if you do not
have the Son you do not have the Father, if you do not have the Spirit of God you do not
belong to God. The only corruptions of scriptures going on here are your twists of it so
that it doesn't say and mean what it says and means.


Originally posted by @thinkofone
I've posted the following or something similar many a time, but I'll post it again. You've never seen it before?

By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within itself. I don't share that view of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around them. At best ...[text shortened]...


BTW you reject scripture. You're just dishonest about it and pretend that you don't.
Why do you think that "the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry" needs to be backed up by spam? You've posted that same bit now what? 10 times in various threads? Apparently, you think more of your OWN words than those of Jesus.