Originally posted by @whodeyYou'd find the book very interesting. PM me if you want to listen the audiobook version. You'll need a Bible handy as it is chock full of carefully analyzed citations and references. No "trashing" goes on. It's a highly accessibility but scholarly book.
I see, so trashing Paul who wrote the majority of the NT.
1 edit
Originally posted by @whodeyNo one is trying to sell you a book. I am offering to let you hear my copy of it.
I bet Raj would do it for free. No need to sell any books.
What's more, there is nothing that Rajk999 talks about here on this forum that's in the book. There is no connection whatsoever between Rajk999 and the content of the book by James Valliant and C.W. Fahy.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneBut do you believe that Jesus is the Christ? the prophesied Messiah?
But how exactly does it make LOGICAL sense that I'd throw out everything that Jesus said when I've been a longtime advocate for the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry?
Can you really not understand that your response doesn't at all address the question?
2 edits
Originally posted by @kellyjayLet's see I posted the following:
The gospel is the good news, its about Jesus who Paul talked about as well as Luke and
Peter.
You have so far still refused to address those writers of text Peter and Luke! They both
back Paul and his teaching what do you do with them?
If you take Jesus' words in scripture, all of Jesus' words in scripture, than Jesus calling
Paul into the ministr ...[text shortened]... which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
<<If you believe that Jesus spoke for Paul in the gospel preached by Him during His ministry, by all means post all the passages.>>
All you posted was a passage from Peter. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Peter isn't Jesus?
You have so far still refused to address those writers of text Peter and Luke! They both
back Paul and his teaching what do you do with them?
Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that neither Peter nor Luke is Jesus?
If you take Jesus' words in scripture, all of Jesus' words in scripture, than Jesus calling
Paul into the ministry and assigning him the task of preaching, you must reject them if
you reject what Jesus did with Paul.
Paul claimed that Jesus spoke to him. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Paul isn't Jesus?
Luke wrote one of the gospels do you doubt that whole book because Luke also wrote
Acts which highlights Paul getting saved and sharing the gospel?
How does it make LOGICAL sense to do so? Especially in light of my stated position?
Originally posted by @suzianneChrist means "anointed one".
But do you believe that Jesus is the Christ? the prophesied Messiah?
Jesus stated the purpose for which he was anointed here:
Luke 4
16And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. 17And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written,
18“THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME,
BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR.
HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES,
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,
TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,
19TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.”
This pretty much boils down to:
1) To preach His gospel - These are the words He spoke while preaching His gospel during His ministry.
2) To give sight to the blind - To open the eyes of those blind to the will of God. The will of God is contained in His gospel.
3) To set free the captives - To FREE those who abide in His word from the slavery of committing sin. To FREE those who abide in His gospel (see John 8).
That's pretty much it. During His ministry, Jesus did what He said He was anointed to do.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYour stated position is you pick what you like and not what you don’t. Making you a judge over the Word of God not the Word over you.
Let's see I posted the following:
<<If you believe that Jesus spoke for Paul in the gospel preached by Him during His ministry, by all means post all the passages.>>
All you posted was a passage from Peter. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Peter isn't Jesus?
[b]You have so far still refused to address those writers of text ...[text shortened]... spel?
How does it make LOGICAL sense to do so? Especially in light of my stated position?[/b]
Originally posted by @thinkofoneDo you believe Jesus is the Word of God, do you believe that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to
Let's see I posted the following:
<<If you believe that Jesus spoke for Paul in the gospel preached by Him during His ministry, by all means post all the passages.>>
All you posted was a passage from Peter. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Peter isn't Jesus?
[b]You have so far still refused to address those writers of text ...[text shortened]... spel?
How does it make LOGICAL sense to do so? Especially in light of my stated position?[/b]
us? If you cannot grasp these two points you will be blind to all.
1 edit
Originally posted by @thinkofone"All you posted was a passage from Peter. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Peter isn't Jesus? "
Let's see I posted the following:
<<If you believe that Jesus spoke for Paul in the gospel preached by Him during His ministry, by all means post all the passages.>>
All you posted was a passage from Peter. Do you really not understand that Jesus is Jesus - that Peter isn't Jesus?
[b]You have so far still refused to address those writers of text ...[text shortened]... spel?
How does it make LOGICAL sense to do so? Especially in light of my stated position?[/b]
No one is Jesus but Jesus, this is your argument about not accepting Paul's testimony?
You are not Jesus, why should anyone listen to you?
Do you have the Holy Spirit within you that Jesus said He was sending?
Originally posted by @fmfAnd your not? We all have opinions the reality and truth of the scripture and reality does not depend upon our views, it is what it is. So we walk in faith believing or rejecting scriptures and whatever man presents as factual. There is no more than that!
You're just making an assertion and declaring it "the truth". Why is it not a metaphor?
4 edits
Suzziane asks ToO -
But do you believe that Jesus is the Christ? the prophesied Messiah?
Can anyone see in his reply a YES or a NO ?
I didn't.
I think the answer is a concealed "NO" .
ToO's response -
Christ means "anointed one".
That's right.
Does ToO believe that Christ was or is the "anointed one" ?
I think the answer must be a disguised "No."
But let's be fair to what he does say.