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Originally posted by @sonship
You missed the point which was that Jesus explicitly stated the purpose for which he was anointed. Evidently you and others believe you know better. But then you believe that God's purpose is for you to command.


I didn't miss it at all.
I pointed out other parallel introductory passages about His ministry.

These you wish to ignore or dismiss .

I love that Luke passages about the year of Jubilee.
Never mind jaywill.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
What about them, they are there. You asked if I thought the Holy Spirit was one I said no.
Now you want to bring up more, carry on that conversation with someone who cares, I don't.
Now unless you want to suggest every question put to anyone requires answers, I suggest
you think about our history and let it be.
so you are running away... typical. and such a crucial point too. without metaphor you have nothing. no bridge to build.


Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
so you are running away... typical. and such a crucial point too. without metaphor you have nothing. no bridge to build.
I suggest you don't build anything than if I were you.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
I suggest you don't build anything than if I were you.
suggestion noted.... and discarded.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
What about [metaphors], they are there. You asked if I thought the Holy Spirit was one I said no.
I asked "why".


Originally posted by @fmf
I asked "why".
Go back and read my answer the first time you asked.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Go back and read my answer the first time you asked.
You just asserted and then reasserted your belief. But the question was - and still is - "why?"


Originally posted by @fmf
You just asserted and then reasserted your belief. But the question was - and still is - "why?"
Because I believe that the Holy Spirit is God, who can teach us, lead us, get grieved over our actions. I believe that Jesus sent Him to us, as the Father sent Jesus to us. He is the third person of the Godhead, the One that Jesus warned us about that if we evil of Christ we can be forgiven, but to speak evil of Him the Holy Spirit is different.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Because I believe that the Holy Spirit is God, who can teach us, lead us, get grieved over our actions. I believe that Jesus sent Him to us, as the Father sent Jesus to us. He is the third person of the Godhead, the One that Jesus warned us about that if we evil of Christ we can be forgiven, but to speak evil of Him the Holy Spirit is different.
I struggle with that notion.

If Jesus and the Holy Spirit are part of the same Godhead, why is only speaking evil of the Holy Spirit unforgivable?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Because I believe that the Holy Spirit is God, who can teach us, lead us, get grieved over our actions. I believe that Jesus sent Him to us, as the Father sent Jesus to us. He is the third person of the Godhead, the One that Jesus warned us about that if we evil of Christ we can be forgiven, but to speak evil of Him the Holy Spirit is different.
Why do you believe this, or - put another way - what is wrong with perceiving "the Holy Spirit" as a metaphor for God's effect on people?


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I struggle with that notion.

If Jesus and the Holy Spirit are part of the same Godhead, why is only speaking evil of the Holy Spirit unforgivable?
Honest answer I don’t know. I imagine because He doesn’t speak of Himself instead He shares, leads, as God wills. So besmirching one who is totally yielded and will never defend Himself God cares for. The Father and Son played an active roll with us so that they consider themselves fair game. Again my opinion nothing more!

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Originally posted by @fmf
Why do you believe this, or - put another way - what is wrong with perceiving "the Holy Spirit" as a metaphor for God's effect on people?
Try reading the Bible with that in mind starting with Genesis 1.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Try reading the Bible with that in mind starting with Genesis 1.
The Bible is replete with metaphors, starting with Genesis.


Originally posted by @fmf
The Bible is replete with metaphors, starting with Genesis.
Genesis 1
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

You think a metaphor for God's effect on people was hovering over the face of the waters?


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Genesis 1
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

You think a metaphor for God's effect on people was hovering over the face of the waters?
I think what you have quoted is quite obviously a set of metaphors.