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Seriously? The pope can’t even turn over evidence of sexual abuse by the clergy to civic authorities for a legal process to occur.
https://apnews.com/article/pope-vatican-abuse-adult-women-ddf5ef8cb166fac77934b491cecd0079
No way this pope is going to grapple with redefining gender categories. Sexuality and the Vatican are like ice cream and diesel: they just don’t go together well. Neither in a waffle-cone nor an engine.
@mlb62 saidWhat "pressure" are you talking about? Gays and Lesbians have made up 2-3% of the human population since the dawn of humanity. There is no more "pressure" now than at any other time.
is the Pope going to cave in to the WOKE Lgbtqa + pressure? throw the Bible out the window ?
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@mchill saidI think the pope already threw the bible out of the window many centuries ago. Regarding this gay issue he has been calling for an end to anti-gay laws. There is nothing in the bible that supports that. If they govt wants to modify their laws then that is fine. As a professed representative for Gods will he needs to follow the bible teaching. Which is basically it is a sin.
What "pressure" are you talking about? Gays and Lesbians have made up 2-3% of the human population since the dawn of humanity. There is no more "pressure" now than at any other time.
- And No, the Pope isn't going to throw the bible out a window. 🙄
@rajk999 saidLike most Republicans, you refuse to believe that people ARE out there actually doing their jobs.
I think the pope already threw the bible out of the window many centuries ago. Regarding this gay issue he has been calling for an end to anti-gay laws. There is nothing in the bible that supports that. If they govt wants to modify their laws then that is fine. As a professed representative for Gods will he needs to follow the bible teaching. Which is basically it is a sin.
You refuse to follow Jesus' commandment to love your neighbor. There is PLENTY in the Bible to support that. Anti-gay (and anti-trans) laws fly in the face of that. The pope is right, and he is NOT "throwing out the Bible". You Trump freaks are anti-Jesus. Try following him.
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@fmf saidI think his commandment to love one's neighbour (and not casting stones) is all about tolerance and acceptance.
Does "Jesus' commandment to love your neighbour" mean that homosexual sex is not "sinful"?
“There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbour?” (James 4:12)
28 Jun 23
@fmf saidSaid the one who has disavowed that there is such a thing as sin.
Does "Jesus' commandment to love your neighbour" mean that homosexual sex is not "sinful"?
This exposes your continued snark-a-thon. Since the conversation per se has no actual value for you, it degenerates into simple ad hominem. I refuse to play. Sorry, not sorry.
@suzianne saidI find considerable value in discussing morality, ideology, faith, theology and everything attendant thereto. So you are mistaken to say I find "no actual value" in it. My question, which you have dodged, is not an ad hominem in any shape or form. Questions that make you dodge are not ad hominems.
This exposes your continued snark-a-thon. Since the conversation per se has no actual value for you, it degenerates into simple ad hominem. I refuse to play. Sorry, not sorry.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidEstablishing whether or not homosexual sex is sinful according to current Christian teaching has nothing to do with being judgemental or tolerant.
I think his commandment to love one's neighbour (and not casting stones) is all about tolerance and acceptance.
“There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbour?” (James 4:12)
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@fmf said'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.' Romans 3:23-24
Establishing whether or not homosexual sex is sinful according to current Christian teaching has nothing to do with being judgemental or tolerant.