1. PenTesting
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    19 Jun '18 17:401 edit
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Works performed to be SEEN performing them are works of inequity. Whether you do it to be seen by God, by people, or both. In any of those situations they are filthy rags--selfish works--not good works. Ever.
    Thanks for your opinion.'The Bible says no such thing.
    Hence my comment that you got that from the Church.

    The Bible says the opposite church boy

    But when thou doest alms,
    let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
    That thine alms may be in secret:
    and thy Father which seeth in secret
    himself shall reward thee openly.

    (Matthew 6:3-4 KJV)


    The bible says that God sees your works and will reward you

    Your church says it not good works

    Got it?
  2. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    19 Jun '18 17:50
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Thanks for your opinion.'The Bible says no such thing.
    Hence my comment that you got that from the Church.

    The Bible says the opposite church boy

    [i]But when thou doest alms,
    let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
    That thine alms may be in secret:
    [b]and thy Father which seeth in secret
    himself shall reward thee openly.

    ( ...[text shortened]... hat God sees your works and will reward you[/b]

    Your church says it not good works

    Got it?[/b]
    Your reading comprehension is abismal. The very verses you just quoted work against you, not for you. Yes, when God sees your good works, He rewards you. But not letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing, describes doing the works without thinking, "What's in it for me?"

    Anyway. You don't get it, you never got it, and you'll probably never get it. Rational discussion without lies, emotions, and flailing arms--is impossible with you.
  3. PenTesting
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    19 Jun '18 18:06
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Your reading comprehension is abismal. The very verses you just quoted work against you, not for you. Yes, when God sees your good works, He rewards you. But not letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing, describes doing the works without thinking, "What's in it for me?"

    Anyway. You don't get it, you never got it, and you'll ...[text shortened]... get it. Rational discussion without lies, emotions, and flailing arms--is impossible with you.
    What Jesus calls good works.
    You call it evil works

    I would be worried if I were you.
  4. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    19 Jun '18 18:08
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    What Jesus calls good works.
    You call it evil works

    I would be worried if I were you.
    Continue believing selfish works please God. You'll eventually figure out just how wrong you are.
  5. PenTesting
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    19 Jun '18 18:23
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Continue believing selfish works please God. You'll eventually figure out just how wrong you are.
    God decides what is selfish works and what is not.
    You have taken it upon yourself to override and to add to what the Bible says.

    The only thing that the Bible says is selfish are the following
    - good works done to be seen of men
    - good works done for monetary reward or benefit

    All other good works, God will reward the doer
  6. Standard memberSecondSon
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    19 Jun '18 19:562 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    More nonsense.

    The Bible says Cain did evil works.
    The Bible says the man who said Lord Lord, he was a worker of iniquity.

    Your church says these people did GOOD WORKS and Jesus rejected these people who did good works because they were trying to earn their salvation... What a hilarious bible-twisting church doctrine. ... lol 😀
    "More nonsense" is what you say whenever you've been exposed as a fraud.

    Followed by irrational meandering and grammatically incoherent blathering.

    Let's see what you'll do with this one. Revelation 21:6

    And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

    Freely - dōrean - undeservedly.

    How does one earn the water of life? Man does not deserve it as Jesus Christ clearly says in the verse above.

    Answer Jesus, Rajk. Tell Him how much you deserve to drink of the water of life because of how good you are and because of all your good works.
  7. PenTesting
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    19 Jun '18 20:10
    Originally posted by @secondson
    "More nonsense" is what you say whenever you've been exposed as a fraud.

    Followed by irrational meandering and grammatically incoherent blathering.

    Let's see what you'll do with this one. Revelation 21:6

    And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the wa ...[text shortened]... ve to drink of the water of life because of how good you are and because of all your good works.
    Fraud? That would be you.

    The fraud is the one who said Cain did good works when the Bible says his works were evil.

    The fraud is the one who said the people saying Lord Lord did good works when Jesus said they were workers of iniquity.

    The fraud is the one saying that works to gain salvation is of the devil when the Bible says no such thing.

    The fraud is the one saying that a Christian has to believe that Jesus is God when Jess says no such thing

    NO SUCH THING.. FRAUD

    Finally the fraud is the fool who cannot read

    And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:6-8 KJV)

    Those who are given the water of life FREELY are the ones

    WHO LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY and WHO DO GOOD WORKS
    THESE ARE THE OVERCOMERS
    THESE ARE THE SONS OF GOD

    All the evil people who live and commit sin will die in the lake of fire.
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    20 Jun '18 02:48
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    What Jesus calls good works.
    You call it evil works

    I would be worried if I were you.
    And Eladar says, "You call good evil, and evil good."

    And you BOTH, therefore, presume to judge your neighbor. That's not love.

    Were you two separated at birth?
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