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Originally posted by FabianFnasplease answer the question.
Ummmm, don't use 'their', when you mean 'our'. You're yourself a fundamentalist, aren't you?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe question is "in what way are the fundamentalists not minding their own business?", right?
please answer the question.
Originally posted by menace71I don't pledge my allegiance to the Dallas Cowboys or promise to go to war over it.
Dude?? G75 who worships the flag? How about that Star on the Cowboys helmet? 😉
The pledge of allegiance totally honors God you know this right? The Flag and nation is said to be under God. Now this may not be true in practice but it is what this nation was somewhat founded on.
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo I don't actually pledge allegiance to the flag. I think I did it in Grade school. I think in this age of political correctness you can defer to do it anyway. You can have your child not do it do to religious reasons. Also it's not like a gun was held to my head saying Pledge or else!! 🙂 I actually think the signing thing is cool. My great grandma was deaf and apparently as the story goes she died in her rocking chair with a smile on her face with her bible in her hands.
do you still need to pledge allegiance to the flag though? is that not a political posture that you are taking? this is strictly impossible for us, for we could not fight against say fellow witnesses in Russia, Korea, or anywhere for that matter, for we hold that they are our brothers. There is a Jehovahs witness congregation or a group of blackf ...[text shortened]... ongs and give discourses in sign language, it is truly, by anyone's standards, utterly amazing!
Originally posted by galveston75You know the old stadium that the Cowboys played in had the big opening in the roof. It's God's team & the hole in the roof was so God could watch em play!! 🙂 Joking but I had a friend who just about worshiped the Cow Boys! I wanted to shoot him.
I don't pledge my allegiance to the Dallas Cowboys or promise to go to war over it.
Originally posted by menace71No I'm not trying to come off as a victum. But just showing from my experiances as well as other Witnesses that because we do take a stand for the Bible as all Christians should do but usually fail because of pressures from family members, workmates, classmates, we do reap the consequences just a Jesus said would happen.
The issue I have is that You & R.C. come off with a victim mentality at times. Man I admire you guys for sticking to what you believe but the human experience is full of peoples being persecuted for there beliefs. If the JW condemns his/her spouse for not wanting to convert thats a hard thing. I don't think it's black & white. Some people are reluctant to ...[text shortened]... t God honor the institution of marriage? So for division to be caused is not good.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71Yeah but nobody is as persecuted as poor Jehovah's Witnesses. You know why they've all got inverted nipples don't you? It's from getting poked in the chest while the other person says "Get the hell off my front porch!"
I agree but kids are just mean to other kids at that age. I used to get called pizza face because I had bad acne. I'm not condoning it at all. I will teach my kid not to treat others that way. I want my son to think for himself but be respectful of others and their beliefs. I believe people have the right to believe what they want even if it is wrong. If ...[text shortened]... ion like being shot or dragged off to jail not some kids making fun of some other kid.
Manny
Originally posted by Ullrperhaps you can name one other Christian organisation that rather than take up arms against their fellow humans, submitted to the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps, in many instances suffering brutal punishment and in some cases death? i want to hear you say it, who else has done this thing? and i would be very careful if i was you, for you people in the united states have a horrendous record of persecution, a truly horrendous record!
Yeah but nobody is as persecuted as poor Jehovah's Witnesses. You know why they've all got inverted nipples don't you? It's from getting poked in the chest while the other person says "Get the hell off my front porch!"
Originally posted by menace71God has now turned his attention to the Denver Broncos!
You know the old stadium that the Cowboys played in had the big opening in the roof. It's God's team & the hole in the roof was so God could watch em play!! 🙂 Joking but I had a friend who just about worshiped the Cow Boys! I wanted to shoot him.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71Just a couple points though....It was my teacher who made me stand in front of the class a few times and the school district did nothing to stop it. And to a child being exposed to this treatment, it is persecution. But I'm ok now...Lol.
I agree but kids are just mean to other kids at that age. I used to get called pizza face because I had bad acne. I'm not condoning it at all. I will teach my kid not to treat others that way. I want my son to think for himself but be respectful of others and their beliefs. I believe people have the right to believe what they want even if it is wrong. If ...[text shortened]... ion like being shot or dragged off to jail not some kids making fun of some other kid.
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI thought I told you to get the Hell of my front porch!?!
perhaps you can name one other Christian organisation that rather than take up arms against their fellow humans, submitted to the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps, in many instances suffering brutal punishment and in some cases death? i want to hear you say it, who else has done this thing? and i would be very careful if i was you, for you people in the united states have a horrendous record of persecution, a truly horrendous record!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh well now that's original. Yeah let's have a discussion about the USA's horrendous record of persecution.
and i would be very careful if i was you, for you people in the united states have a horrendous record of persecution, a truly horrendous record!
Originally posted by Ullri would not stand on your porch for a minute, there is far to many interesting and mannerly people to talk to and meet without me wasting my time with bozos whose sole contribution is a dumb caveman clichéd utterance, like 'get of my porch', with pleasure is the response!
I thought I told you to get the Hell of my front porch!?!
Originally posted by Ullri see you have nothing to say with regard to the fine record of those who were persecuted under the Nazis, who rather than take up arms in respect of Christ and the sanctity of life, refused to war on their Christian brothers and walked the walk. why is that? are you unaware, perhaps you dont know anything about it? are the Americans so uniformed that they do not know what happens in the outside world? have you been outside of your own country? perhaps your own state then?
Oh well now that's original. Yeah let's have a discussion about the USA's horrendous record of persecution.
From a religious standpoint this country was founded upon the concept of religous freedom. Was it not persecuted Christians that left Europe and settled in the New World to escape religous persecution?
Really, what are you babbling on about?