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Why "GOD" is an empty concept.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
In a word you have nothing but your opinion, so you say go look it
up. You made the claims and if you cannot defend them, just say so
and move on.
Kelly
You are unbelievable!

Just try reading ANY physics book. Go on, try it. Visit a library and educate yourself.

How can you accuse me of making indefensible claims after you made the glib and unsubstantiated claim that:
"I would also remind you God created the universe and also appeared to people in different forms
As well. He isn’t limited."

You really take the biscuit for the dumbest, most infuriating poster on this site, Kelly.

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Originally posted by howardgee
You are unbelievable!

Just try reading ANY physics book. Go on, try it. Visit a library and educate yourself.

How can you accuse me of making indefensible claims after you made the glib and unsubstantiated claim that:
"I would also remind you God created the universe and also appeared to people in different forms
As well. He isn’t limited."

You really take the biscuit for the dumbest, most infuriating poster on this site, Kelly.
On the contrary, Kelly is making an excellent point.

You atheists and agnostics say in one breath that we could never know God if He existed, and then you say He can't exist because He must be such and such...

Get your beliefs in order, then we might have a chance of setting them straight.

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Oh sorry, my mistake:

You really take the biscuit for the dumbest, most infuriating poster on this site, Darfius.

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Originally posted by Darfius
On the contrary, Kelly is making an excellent point.

You atheists and agnostics say in one breath that we could never know God if He existed, and then you say He can't exist because He must be such and such...

Get your beliefs in order, then we might have a chance of setting them straight.
It's simple Darfius:

God does not exist because he cannot exist. This is due to the fact that he is a an empty concept.

It is you religious people who need to get your beliefs in order and bring yourselves out of the dark ages and into the 21st century.

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Originally posted by howardgee
It's simple Darfius:

God does not exist because he cannot exist. This is due to the fact that he is a an empty concept.

It is you religious people who need to get your beliefs in order and bring yourselves out of the dark ages and into the 21st century.
Thanks for the advice, Mr. I believe something came from nothing.

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Originally posted by howardgee
You are unbelievable!

Just try reading ANY physics book. Go on, try it. Visit a library and educate yourself.

How can you accuse me of making indefensible claims after you made the glib and unsubstantiated claim that:
"I would also remind you God created the universe and also appeared to people in different forms
As well. He isn’t limited."

You really take the biscuit for the dumbest, most infuriating poster on this site, Kelly.
I have physic books sitting on the self right beside me, but it was you
were making point and I asked you to back them up. I understand
your backing up and trying to make this about me, that way you do
not have to back up your opinion with something other than your
point of view.
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
I have physic books sitting on the self right beside me, but it was you
were making point and I asked you to back them up. I understand
your backing up and trying to make this about me, that way you do
not have to back up your opinion with something other than your
point of view.
Kelly
Read the physics books then, to verify my statements.

Perhaps once you have read them, you will no longer believe that atoms and electrons have no mass.

Then you will understand why God being ethereal makes him impotent.

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Originally posted by howardgee
Read the physics books then, to verify my statements.

Perhaps once you have read them, you will no longer believe that atoms and electrons have no mass.

Then you will understand why God being ethereal makes him impotent.
I find it hard to believe someone could be as dense as you appear
to be, but I could be wrong.
Kelly

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Originally posted by howardgee
Ok, here it is at last - I found time to briefly outline this truth.

GOD = An omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent entity who created the universe.

1. God created the universe, but what created God? If God has always been in existence, then why not simply accept that the Universe has always been in existence? Inventing the concept of "GOD" to explain away the beginning of everything is totally question-begging.


Simply because there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the Universe does, in fact, have a beginning.

2. Unnecessary evil would not exist given the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent entity. Torture committed by the Spanish inquisition purely in GOD's name would never be allowed by that good entity who knew it was occurring and could stop it.

The old theodicy question. As a self-proclaimed philosopher, you should know that this position is not logically paradoxical.

3. Every proof of God invented by mankind is fundamentally flawed. Given this and the fact that nobody has ever seen, heard, touched, smelled, tasted (oo-er) GOD; there is no reliable evidence whatsoever for GOD's existence and no reason to believe in him (except for similarly misguided peer pressure).

What do you mean by "reliable evidence"? Certainly, plenty of people worldwide have witnessed that they have seen, heard and (in some cases) even touched God.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
I find it hard to believe someone could be as dense as you appear
to be, but I could be wrong.
Kelly
No you're not.

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Originally posted by howardgee
Here you raise another point which I was hoping somebody would make so that I could mention a 4th reason why God is an empty concept:

4. If God is ethereal and timeless, how can he possibly interact with the physical universe?

This should be a self-explanatory problem which anybody with the most rudimentary grasp of physics can understand. Therefo ...[text shortened]... he smallest physical phenomenon and is completely impotent with regard to the physical universe.
Who says only physical entities can interact with other physical entities?

Also, photons have no mass - yet you cannot say they do not interact with other entities that do have mass.

Please make sure you have your physics right before you start asking other people to check their textbooks.