Originally posted by menace71Yes, I found that too. More or less. I have to admit Robbies humor is pretty good sometimes (I gotta write something positive 😀 )
They do all of those things the dodging ect.....because it's their brainwashed minds and dogma from the watchtower. Usually G-man and R.C. are lock stock and step together in their answers and they always have cookie cutter answers. This cuts right back to the Watchtower society. I would bet my life that when or if JW's come to my door they will have the ...[text shortened]... ed to think for themselves. (I think this is where R.C. and G-man deviate slightly)
Manny
"cookie cutter answers" . Is that like "one size fits all" answers?
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Originally posted by galveston75If what you're suggesting is some kind of little agreement between us whereby I self-censor so that you are not "offended", then I'm afraid that's not going to happen. If my perspective has no merit in your view, how can it offend you? If I am wrong then it is me who will be seen in a poor light by the community, not you.
Well I've clearly stated that I'm doing nothing to dodge or deflect or decieve on any level. I hope that thought is not brought up again as I'm fairly offended by that accusation...
Originally posted by FMFWell I don't think this should be to hard to understand, it must be, but I told I am not doing those things you say I'm doing. I'm telling you I do not. So in plain english are calling me a liar. You can reword it anyway you want but you are calling me a liar.
If what you're suggesting is some kind of little agreement between us whereby I self-censor so that you are not "offended", then I'm afraid that's not going to happen. If my perspective has no merit in your view, how can it offend you? If I am wrong then it is me who will be seen in a poor light by the community, not you.
I take real offense to that but it seems that does not matter to you.....
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Originally posted by galveston75Well my view is different from yours. I think you dodge, deflect, dissemble, obfuscate or contradict yourself, routinely so; default-settingly so. [Having said that, robbie is far and away worse than you in this respect.]
Well I don't think this should be to hard to understand, it must be, but I told I am not doing those things you say I'm doing. I'm telling you I do not. So in plain english are calling me a liar. You can reword it anyway you want but you are calling me a liar.
I take real offense to that but it seems that does not matter to you.....
If you insist that you don't dodge, deflect, dissemble etc., then perhaps it means you can't help yourself or it is inadvertent in some other way. You are probably being entirely sincere when you say, claim, believe, insist that you are not doing "those things", so the word "liar" doesn't really work. I certainly have not used it.
As I said before, your posting behaviour probably stems from the intellectual impact of your beliefs and your groupism, i.e. specialness, separateness, chosenness - and after so many years of obedience and conformity and institutionally unopposed doublethink, you may be unaware of the consequences, just as you are seemingly unaware of how you come across to many people here.
You use the word "liar". But it's a bit harsh, galveston75. I am not inclined to use it to describe you.
Originally posted by FMFNeither of you know any better.
Well my view is different from yours. I think you dodge, deflect, dissemble, obfuscate or contradict yourself, routinely so; default-settingly so. [Having said that, robbie is far and away worse than you in this respect.]
If you insist that you don't dodge, deflect, dissemble etc., then perhaps it means you can't help yourself or it is inadvertent in some ot ...[text shortened]... liar". But it's a bit harsh, galveston75. I am not inclined to use it to describe you.
Originally posted by FMFSo Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “ If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” They answered Him, “ We are Abraham’s descendants and have never yet been enslaved to anyone; how is it that You say, ‘You will become free’?”
Oh, look. RJHinds has posted again.
Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever. So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. I know that you are Abraham’s descendants; yet you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. I speak the things which I have seen with My Father; therefore you also do the things which you heard from your father.”
They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus *said to them, “ If you are Abraham’s children, do the deeds of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father.” They said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God.” Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.”
(John 8:31-47 NASB)
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
Originally posted by galveston75Stop whining like little wimp.
Well I don't think this should be to hard to understand, it must be, but I told I am not doing those things you say I'm doing. I'm telling you I do not. So in plain english are calling me a liar. You can reword it anyway you want but you are calling me a liar.
I take real offense to that but it seems that does not matter to you.....
Here is what you should be doing if you have an character:
- Take your correction like a man.
- Thank FMF for taking the time and trouble he went through to point out those disgusting faults you have
- Make a conscientious effort to change.
You will be a better JW for it.
Originally posted by Rajk999Rajk your offending me stop!!! 🙂
Stop whining like little wimp.
Here is what you should be doing if you have an character:
- Take your correction like a man.
- Thank FMF for taking the time and trouble he went through to point out those disgusting faults you have
- Make a conscientious effort to change.
You will be a better JW for it.
Manny
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Originally posted by Rajk999He might be a better person for it... I doubt it will make him a better JW...
Stop whining like little wimp.
Here is what you should be doing if you have an character:
- Take your correction like a man.
- Thank FMF for taking the time and trouble he went through to point out those disgusting faults you have
- Make a conscientious effort to change.
You will be a better JW for it.
Which is really the problem.
