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  1. Zugzwang
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    10 Jan '17 21:231 edit
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/10/problems-with-education-in-america-trump

    "Blue state or red state, educating a child in America will drive you nuts:
    While I encourage everyone to be alarmed by Trump, education isn’t the top of my list
    of worries: for my family, it’s been a problem no matter who’s in charge."
    --Neal Pollack (10 January 2017)
  2. Behind the scenes
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    10 Jan '17 21:30
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/10/problems-with-education-in-america-trump

    "Blue state or red state, educating a child in America will drive you nuts:
    While I encourage everyone to be alarmed by Trump, education isn’t the top of my list
    of worries: for my family, it’s been a problem no matter who’s in charge."
    --Neal Pollack (10 January 2017)
    This would indeed seem to be cause for some concern. American education is clearly not the best, however, as Nietzsche once said: "From chaos comes order" 🙂
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    10 Jan '17 22:241 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    This would indeed seem to be cause for some concern. American education is clearly not the best, however, as Nietzsche once said: "From chaos comes order" 🙂
    As if American schools are monolithic!

    The problem with American schools stems from the courts, Americans with Disabilities act as well as the idea that schools should be used to make everyone equal.


    Nice Blazing Saddles reference
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Jan '17 08:43
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/10/problems-with-education-in-america-trump

    "Blue state or red state, educating a child in America will drive you nuts:
    While I encourage everyone to be alarmed by Trump, education isn’t the top of my list
    of worries: for my family, it’s been a problem no matter who’s in charge."
    --Neal Pollack (10 January 2017)
    Yes, Republicans have been forcing "charter schools" down our throats for a couple of decades now. And in typical Republican fashion, they wrap this 'livestock waste' in the pretty wrapping paper called "school choice".
  5. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Jan '17 08:57
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Nice Blazing Saddles reference
    Are you telling him to blow it out his ass?

    Just wanna be clear here.
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    11 Jan '17 09:11
    Do American schools still do tests with multiple choice?
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    11 Jan '17 10:431 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    Do American schools still do tests with multiple choice?
    The ACT and SAT are multiple choice, but multple guess tests are not yhe problem.

    The system is the problem.
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    11 Jan '17 11:08
    Originally posted by mchill
    This would indeed seem to be cause for some concern. American education is clearly not the best, however, as Nietzsche once said: "From chaos comes order" 🙂
    It's a race to see how they can destroy the US. Will it be through inept education or massive debt or maybe the combination of the two? After all, the best way to keep electing fools who are destroying the country is to not educate them.
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    11 Jan '17 11:10
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Yes, Republicans have been forcing "charter schools" down our throats for a couple of decades now. And in typical Republican fashion, they wrap this 'livestock waste' in the pretty wrapping paper called "school choice".
    Who exactly are forced to go to "charter schools" Suzy?

    Conversely, if you are trapped in a "poor public school" in the inner city then your only choice is to send them to a hell hole where education is nonexistent and crime is rampant.
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    11 Jan '17 11:11
    Originally posted by Eladar
    The ACT and SAT are multiple choice, but multple guess tests are not yhe problem.

    The system is the problem.
    No, it's Bush's fault. 😛
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    11 Jan '17 11:49
    Originally posted by whodey
    Who exactly are forced to go to "charter schools" Suzy?

    Conversely, if you are trapped in a "poor public school" in the inner city then your only choice is to send them to a hell hole where education is nonexistent and crime is rampant.
    The ones who are trapped in terrible schools that are driven by the kids who do not care about education?

    One rotten apple ruins the barrel.
  12. Standard membersh76
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    11 Jan '17 13:35
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    Do American schools still do tests with multiple choice?
    Do people of the world still like 2% milk in their coffee?
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    11 Jan '17 15:12
    American educational system, one of the most costly educational system in the world.

    It is living proof that you don't always get what you pay for.
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    11 Jan '17 15:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    American educational system, one of the most costly educational system in the world.

    It is living proof that you don't always get what you pay for.
    US education works under ridiculous and unachievable goals.
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    11 Jan '17 15:50
    Originally posted by Eladar
    US education works under ridiculous and unachievable goals.
    I think most people are given ridiculous and unachievable goals as part of their job.

    After all, do you want employees to think they are done "achieving"?

    Never!

    No, I think the issue is simply mismanagement of funds and centralized control run amuck, as with most things.
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