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    31 Aug '18 11:001 edit
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/dojs-bruce-ohr-kept-mueller-deputy-in-loop-about-anti-trump-dossier-sources-say.html

    IT IS OVER! OHER FLIPPED!


    Embattled DOJ official Bruce Ohr kept Mueller deputy posted on anti-Trump dossier

    "Embattled Justice Department official Bruce Ohr had contact in 2016 with then-colleague Andrew Weissmann, who is now a top Robert Mueller deputy, as well as other senior FBI officials about the controversial anti-Trump dossier and the individuals behind it"

    "Ohr's outreach about the dossier – as well as its author, ex-British spy Christopher Steele; the opposition research firm behind it, Glenn Simpson’s Fusion GPS; and his wife Nellie Ohr's work for Fusion – occurred before and after the FBI fired Steele as a source over his media contacts."

    "Ohr's network of contacts on the dossier included: former FBI agent Peter Strzok; former FBI lawyer Lisa Page; former deputy director Andrew McCabe; Weissmann and at least one other DOJ official; and a current FBI agent who worked with Strzok on the Russia case."

    The entire Obama anti-Trump Conspiracy just got exposed!
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    31 Aug '18 13:251 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/dojs-bruce-ohr-kept-mueller-deputy-in-loop-about-anti-trump-dossier-sources-say.html

    IT IS OVER! OHER FLIPPED!


    Embattled DOJ official Bruce Ohr kept Mueller deputy posted on anti-Trump dossier

    "Embattled Justice Department official Bruce Ohr had contact in 2016 with then-colleague Andrew Weissmann, who i ...[text shortened]... ed with Strzok on the Russia case."

    The entire Obama anti-Trump Conspiracy just got exposed!
    Do tell.

    Just what is your point here, anyway?

    He was in contact with colleagues? Shocking!
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    31 Aug '18 13:281 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Do tell.

    Just what is your point here, anyway?

    He was in contact with colleagues? Shocking!
    It's like Bill meeting with the head of the DOJ in secret while his wife was being investigated.

    Nothing to see there either, eh Suzy?

    Instead of the deep state, perhaps they should call it the Key Stone Cops state.
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    31 Aug '18 13:322 edits
    It only gets worse.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-29/hard-refute-fbi-leaked-stories-media-and-used-them-obtain-fisa-warrants

    It appears that the FBI leaked the story to the media so that they could obtain FISA warrants


    "Hard To Refute" FBI Leaked Stories To Media And Used Them To Obtain FISA Warrants

    Special Agent Jonathan Moffa testified last Friday behind closed doors and before the House Judiciary Committee and House Oversight Committee. Moffa said that FBI personnel would use media reports based on information they leaked to justify applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants.

    Special Agent Jonathan Moffa testified last Friday behind closed doors and before the House Judiciary Committee and House Oversight Committee. Moffa said that FBI personnel would use media reports based on information they leaked to justify applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants.

    Moffa, who worked with controversial former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, did not come forward to the media, but according to a report by Fox News, a source familiar with his testimony has spoken about it.
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    31 Aug '18 14:013 edits
    Originally posted by @whodey
    It only gets worse.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-29/hard-refute-fbi-leaked-stories-media-and-used-them-obtain-fisa-warrants

    It appears that the FBI leaked the story to the media so that they could obtain FISA warrants


    "Hard To Refute" FBI Leaked Stories To Media And Used Them To Obtain FISA Warrants

    Special Agent Jonathan Moffa testi ...[text shortened]... but according to a report by Fox News, a source familiar with his testimony has spoken about it.
    Special Agent Jonathan Moffa testified last Friday behind closed doors and before the House Judiciary Committee and House Oversight Committee. Moffa said that FBI personnel would use media reports based on information they leaked to justify applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants.


    I hate to nit pick Whodey, but if this man testified last Friday behind "closed doors" then how can you be so certain of what he said? Closed doors testimony before the House Judiciary Committee and House Oversight Committee seems a bit beyond your security clearance.
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    31 Aug '18 14:18
    Originally posted by @whodey
    It's like Bill meeting with the head of the DOJ in secret while his wife was being investigated.

    Nothing to see there either, eh Suzy?

    Instead of the deep state, perhaps they should call it the Key Stone Cops state.
    This really is a nothningburger. Ohr met with Steele to discuss the contents of the memo. So what? That seems an appropriate thing to do i.e. to investigate the veracity of the information Steele allegedly obtained.
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    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    This really is a nothningburger. Ohr met with Steele to discuss the contents of the memo. So what? That seems an appropriate thing to do i.e. to investigate the veracity of the information Steele allegedly obtained.
    Oh its about to be investigated alright. Hang on.
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    01 Sep '18 00:482 edits
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Do tell.

    Just what is your point here, anyway?

    He was in contact with colleagues? Shocking!
    Oh don't be so coy. You know what this means.

    The dossier was full of lies - was unverified - was authored by a never-Trumper with an axe to grind - was paid for by Clinton & the DNC with money laundered through a law firm - played a key role in getting the FISA warrant which allowed Obama and friends to use our national intelligence apparatus to spy on an opposition campaign.

    And now Ohr has released the names of everyone he TOLD about this before and after it kicked into full gear - and nothing was done.

    You're seriously ok with that? Do you think it would be ok if Trump did this to the next Democrat presidential nominee?
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    01 Sep '18 00:52
    The entire global progressive™ liberal mob would have a complete meltdown followed by a violent uprising if Trump did anything remotely close to what Obama et al got away with here.
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    01 Sep '18 02:15
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Oh don't be so coy. You know what this means.

    The dossier was full of lies - was unverified - was authored by a never-Trumper with an axe to grind - was paid for by Clinton & the DNC with money laundered through a law firm - played a key role in getting the FISA warrant which allowed Obama and friends to use our national intelligence apparatus to sp ...[text shortened]... that? Do you think it would be ok if Trump did this to the next Democrat presidential nominee?
    Who says the dossier was full of lies?

    Fox News?
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    01 Sep '18 03:011 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Who says the dossier was full of lies?

    Fox News?
    Well of course your preferred media outlets aren't saying it. And I guess the innumerable Republican government officials saying the Dossier is fake... means nothing. Surely you're not suggesting that if your preferred channels don't report certain information, it must therefore be unnewsworthy propaganda?

    Meanwhile, newsweek (last I checked, not Fox) ran an article that claims the author of the Steele dossier should face criminal investigation. It goes on and on about the dossier's inconsistencies that apparently "correspond with partisan political interests."

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-steele-investigation-772587

    Your hero Michael Cohen said the dossier's allegations were entirely false. Speaking of Cohen, the dossier claims that he traveled to Russia on Trump's behalf, when in fact, Cohen was in London on the dates in question.

    The writer of the dossier is either sloppy and stupid (thus completely unqualified in such a serious, unprecedented matter), or he is a liar. Considering his known hate for Trump, the fact that Fusion GPS was paying him for dirt on Trump, and his political beliefs, it's pretty clear he's a liar.

    Isn't it a standard here in the debate forum that when you make a claim, the onus is upon you to prove it, not others to disprove it? Isn't it the standard here that a claim that someone cannot back up with facts, is considered a false claim? The Steele dossier makes claims that are either inconsistent with the truth or, at best, unverifiable. Unproven. False by legal standards and by this very forum's standards.

    From Forbes.com (not Fox)

    The Trump Dossier Is Fake -- And Here Are The Reasons Why

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why/

    The Daily Herald in Chicago sheds light on the new standard democrats are applying to the dossier: Apparently if a republican is simply accused of something... it must be true unless it can be proven false. That is 180 degrees from how justice and truth-seeking operate.

    Is 'can't prove untrue' the new standard in dossier probe?
    "When a political figure is accused of wrongdoing, a conversation begins among journalists, commentators and public officials. Are the charges true? Can the accusers prove it?

    That's the way it normally works. But now, in the case of the Trump dossier -- the allegations compiled by a former British spy hired by the Clinton campaign to gather dirt on presidential candidate Donald Trump -- the generally accepted standard of justice has been turned on its head. Now, the question is: Can the accused prove the charges false? Increasingly, the president's critics argue that the dossier is legitimate because it has not been proven untrue."

    https://www.dailyherald.com/discuss/20180426/is-cant-prove-untrue-the-new-standard-in-dossier-probe

    In an interview on NBC's 'Meet The Press' (again, not Fox):

    “Mr. Steele was on the payroll of Fusion GPS, who was being paid by the Democratic Party to do opposition research on Donald Trump. That while he was working with the FBI, he was shopping this dossier all over the world. That’s not what an informant should do.” - Senator Lindsey Graham

    We can go on and on, but we really need to get past this lazy, pat response claiming something can't be right if it's not being reported in the mainstream/liberal media and press.
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    01 Sep '18 04:071 edit
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    The entire global progressive™ liberal mob would have a complete meltdown followed by a violent uprising if Trump did anything remotely close to what Obama et al got away with here.
    You do know that you sound paranoid and that there’s drugs out there that can help you?
    The entire liberal elite?

    God man, get a bloody grip.

    As for what Obama got away with... not exactly sure what he’s supposed to have gotten away with... well except trying to get everyone health insurance and a murderous foreign policy...

    And that latter one is just what the world expects from the US. You really are a bunch of aggressive masturbators.

    Look at trump. Look at him.
    Every single thing he says and does is complete madness.
    And you’re whole-heartedly sucking his orange cock and swallowing his BS gulp after gulp.

    Seriously. The man is a moron and the policies he’s pushing are not only damaging the planet, they’re ripping your country in two.

    And believe me sonny boy, most of the world are loving it. Two smaller America’s are better than the hell hound of insanity we have to deal with now.
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    01 Sep '18 10:04
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Well of course your preferred media outlets aren't saying it. And I guess the innumerable Republican government officials saying the Dossier is fake... means nothing. Surely you're not suggesting that if your preferred channels don't report certain information, it must therefore be unnewsworthy propaganda?

    Meanwhile, newsweek (last I checked, ...[text shortened]... g something can't be right if it's not being reported in the mainstream/liberal media and press.
    You are being typically dishonest; the Newsweek article merely repeated the claims of Graham and Grassley (who don't work at Newsweek AFAIK) that a criminal investigation of Steele should be initiated. This is, of course, just another thread of the obstruction of justice strategy being pushed by prominent Republicans.

    The dossier was raw intelligence and not everything in it has or perhaps even could be verified, but its essential story that the Russian government was engaging in various activities to help Donald Trump get elected has been supported by every investigation not run by Devin Nunes. Steele was a reliable source of information for the US for decades and the partisan attack on him, like the partisan attack on every intelligence and law enforcement agency of the US investigating the Russian interference and Trump campaign misconduct, is just another aspect of the cover up.
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    01 Sep '18 10:18
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    The entire global progressive™ liberal mob would have a complete meltdown followed by a violent uprising if Trump did anything remotely close to what Obama et al got away with here.
    Would that be the tan suit or the Dijon mustard?
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    01 Sep '18 11:22
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Who says the dossier was full of lies?

    Fox News?
    why are you so scared of fox news?
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