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    25 Oct '17 13:16
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/357047-george-hw-bush-apologizes-after-actress-accuses-him-of-groping#.WfCJ1QOsUA8.twitter

    What is in the water in DC? Are all of these people sexual deviants?
  2. Standard memberfinnegan
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    25 Oct '17 13:37
    https://notonepenny.org/?source=20171016kansasusad

    Or you could talk about real issues.
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    25 Oct '17 14:002 edits
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    https://notonepenny.org/?source=20171016kansasusad

    Or you could talk about real issues.
    This is not a real issue? Did you hear that Duchess? A former President of the US sexually assaulting women with impunity is not an issue.

    What is wrong with you? Bush was a Republican, public enemy number 1.
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    25 Oct '17 14:56
    Originally posted by @whodey
    This is not a real issue? Did you hear that Duchess? A former President of the US sexually assaulting women with impunity is not an issue.

    What is wrong with you? Bush was a Republican, public enemy number 1.
    What is wrong with you? Bush was a Republican, public enemy number 1.

    You're close Whodey, but not quite there. In the world of Duchess ALL white males are public enemy number 1.
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    25 Oct '17 15:411 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    What is wrong with you? Bush was a Republican, public enemy number 1.

    You're close Whodey, but not quite there. In the world of Duchess ALL white males are public enemy number 1.
    Say, you sound like a white male as well.

    Are you public enemy #2? 😠

    I can't imagine where Duchess might be, being so concerned with women's rights and all.
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    25 Oct '17 16:01
    Originally posted by @whodey
    This is not a real issue? Did you hear that Duchess? A former President of the US sexually assaulting women with impunity is not an issue.

    What is wrong with you? Bush was a Republican, public enemy number 1.
    This trivial celebrity item takes the discussion of women's issues precisely nowhere. As long as we are asked to focus on the peccadilloes of the powerful and the wealthy, we are distracted from the situation of women among the mass of the population. It is a way to pretend we are talking abut an issue when we are refusing to talk about it. What about discussing mortality rates in childbirth and the decimation of women's healthcare across the US? What about discussing why the US is the only country in the developed world whose employers are not required to provide paid maternity leave? What about discussing why American culture is based on hatred for women?
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    25 Oct '17 16:05
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    This trivial celebrity item takes the discussion of women's issues precisely nowhere. As long as we are asked to focus on the peccadilloes of the powerful and the wealthy, we are distracted from the situation of women among the mass of the population. It is a way to pretend we are talking abut an issue when we are refusing to talk about it. What about d ...[text shortened]... paid maternity leave? What about discussing why American culture is based on hatred for women?
    So talking about Trump and women is OK and imperative if we are going to have change, but not when it comes to men like Bush or Weinstein?

    Got it!

    Thanks for that.

    So if the powers that be are busy abusing women with impunity, how will change come about?
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    25 Oct '17 16:23
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/357047-george-hw-bush-apologizes-after-actress-accuses-him-of-groping#.WfCJ1QOsUA8.twitter

    What is in the water in DC? Are all of these people sexual deviants?
    If everyone does it, it's not deviant; it's the norm.
  9. Standard memberfinnegan
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    25 Oct '17 16:23
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So talking about Trump and women is OK and imperative if we are going to have change, but not when it comes to men like Bush or Weinstein?

    Got it!

    Thanks for that.

    So if the powers that be are busy abusing women with impunity, how will change come about?
    Who are you talking to here? Not me.
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    25 Oct '17 16:27
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    This trivial celebrity item takes the discussion of women's issues precisely nowhere. As long as we are asked to focus on the peccadilloes of the powerful and the wealthy, we are distracted from the situation of women among the mass of the population. It is a way to pretend we are talking abut an issue when we are refusing to talk about it. What about d ...[text shortened]... paid maternity leave? What about discussing why American culture is based on hatred for women?
    Wouldn't you agree that the more we discuss the rich and wealthy's treatment of women, the easier it will be to report? For example, had the Weinstein story not been made public, it's likely that this account with Bush Sr. wouldn't have come to light.

    Another example: the comedian Hannibal Buress during a stand-up routine, blasted Bill Cosby for being a rapist. This stand-up act has been credited with kindling the fire that lead to multiple allegations against Cosby. That, in turn, lead to revelations of Cosby admitting to using quaaludes in a legal case. Cosby is now being tried. You can brush off the Cosby revelations as "trivial celebrity" news, but for those women he raped, at the very least brings some long-awaited vindication for what they had to endure.

    The problem with Weinstein is that people knew of the sexual assault, but no one said anything. Let's never let that happen again.
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    25 Oct '17 16:33
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Who are you talking to here? Not me.
    Apparently to myself, but hey, I'm used to it here.
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    25 Oct '17 16:34
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Wouldn't you agree that the more we discuss the rich and wealthy's treatment of women, the easier it will be to report? For example, had the Weinstein story not been made public, it's likely that this account with Bush Sr. wouldn't have come to light.

    Another example: the comedian Hannibal Buress during a stand-up routine, blasted Bill Cosby for being a ...[text shortened]... people knew of the sexual assault, but no one said anything. Let's never let that happen again.
    What is more troubling is the knowledge that what Weinstein did was nothing out of the ordinary in the Hollywood culture, yet he is the fall guy?

    Have you ever wondered why?
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    25 Oct '17 16:43
    Originally posted by @whodey
    What is more troubling is the knowledge that what Weinstein did was nothing out of the ordinary in the Hollywood culture, yet he is the fall guy?

    Have you ever wondered why?
    That's not a Hollywood thing, that's a fact of any society or establishment dominated by men. That includes our government, politicians, news broadcasters, conservatives, liberals, white culture, black culture, etc.
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    25 Oct '17 17:24
    Originally posted by @vivify
    That's not a Hollywood thing, that's a fact of any society or establishment dominated by men. That includes our government, politicians, news broadcasters, conservatives, liberals, white culture, black culture, etc.
    Yes, so answer the question, why are men like Harvey and Bill Cosby singled out?
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    25 Oct '17 17:311 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/357047-george-hw-bush-apologizes-after-actress-accuses-him-of-groping#.WfCJ1QOsUA8.twitter

    What is in the water in DC? Are all of these people sexual deviants?
    So in a remarkable bit of cosmic humour, George HW allegedly loves to beat around the bush. Any bush it would seem!

    Trump loves to grab pussy, but George prefers to grope some bush.....
    You couldn't make this stuff up.

    Which begs the question, Finnegan's asking. What is this sideshow masking?
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