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Debates 10 May '18 13:16
  1. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    10 May '18 13:161 edit
    Slavery: It seems to be an ongoing and pervasive issue for the Chinese. Yet, they refuse to speak of it...preferring to project a prosperity model which is false and unworthy.

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    I'm sick of exclusively hearing of all the evils of white America in this Forum. All cultures share in this basket of ugliness. To deny it...is fanciful delusion.
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    10 May '18 21:061 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Slavery: It seems to be an ongoing and pervasive issue for the Chinese. Yet, they refuse to speak of it...preferring to project a prosperity model which is false and unworthy.

    [youtube]uLbPVqUFOCE[/youtube]

    I'm sick of exclusively hearing of all the evils of white America in this Forum. All cultures share in this basket of ugliness. To deny it...is fanciful delusion.
    As a general rule, I don't watch linked videos. The racist troll Wolfe63 seems to be in
    the mood to post as much anti-Chinese racist **** that he can find on the internet.

    Some racist white people attempt to divert attention from white Western crimes
    (including slavery and genocide) in Africa by arguing that the Chinese always have treated
    black Africans even worse than white people ever did. Of course, that's absurd.

    (MIng Dynasty) China had a record of peacefully trading with East Africa.
    In contrast to the white Europeans, the Chinese did not attempt to colonize Africa.
    The Chinese did not go slave-raiding in Africa. Given that black Africans of status
    coveted Chinese goods such as silk and porcelain, the Africans faced the problem of
    how to pay for them. (There were only so many African elephants that could be killed to
    provide ivory in exchange for silk and porcelain.) So the Chinese were persuaded to
    accept a comparatively few slaves from Africa as partial payment for their luxury goods.
    China has some historical record of acquiring black slaves, but it's minor compared to
    the vast Western economies that largely depended upon black slave labour.

    More recently, Chinese economic aid to black Africa was very generous in proportion to
    (poor) China's resources. China financed and built a famous major railway in Africa,
    which Western governments and corporations had refused to approve or finance.

    China has a long record of advising, training, and arming black African 'freedom fighters'
    against the racist oppression of Western colonial or white supremacist regimes.
    (Wolfe63's sympathies presumably would be with the white people opposing these 'freedom fighters'.)

    Now I would not claim that every Chinese individual or corporation always has been
    altruistic and honest in Africa. Some black Africans may have legitimate complaints of
    mistreatment by some Chinese. But that certainly would fall far short of the long system
    of racist oppression by white-dominated Western regimes or corporations in Africa.
  3. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    10 May '18 21:23
    Mao was a fraud!
    Instead of fighting the Imperial Japanese, Chairman Mao and his communists stole the weapons and aid provided by the West.
    After Chang Kai-Shek was exhausted against the Japanese...Mao's well-fed and rested forces turned against him. This is evidenced by Mao actually, thanking the Japanese for their help, in the latter years of his regime.

    The unjustifiably condescending troll Duchess64 is aware of this dishonor in her country's history...and will say anything to keep it from becoming widely known by the peasants of her prefecture.

    Chairman Mao was a disgusting slob. He never bathed or brushed his teeth and claimed that he washed himself daily in the body's of his teenage concubines.
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    10 May '18 21:36
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Mao was a fraud!
    Instead of fighting the Imperial Japanese, Chairman Mao and his communists stole the weapons and aid provided by the West.
    After Chang Kai-Shek was exhausted against the Japanese...Mao's well-fed and rested forces turned against him. This is evidenced by Mao actually, thanking the Japanese for their help, in the latter years of his regim ...[text shortened]... shed his teeth and claimed that he washed himself daily in the body's of his teenage concubines.
    The veneer slips away and ugly racism is revealed.
  5. Zugzwang
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    10 May '18 21:422 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Mao was a fraud!
    Instead of fighting the Imperial Japanese, Chairman Mao and his communists stole the weapons and aid provided by the West.
    After Chang Kai-Shek was exhausted against the Japanese...Mao's well-fed and rested forces turned against him. This is evidenced by Mao actually, thanking the Japanese for their help, in the latter years of his regim ...[text shortened]... shed his teeth and claimed that he washed himself daily in the body's of his teenage concubines.
    The racist troll Wolfe63's extremely ignorant of history or prefers to lie shamelessly about it.
    Wolfe63 apparently has a bizarre fantasy that I must be a great admirer of Mao Zedong.

    "Chairman Mao and his communists stole the weapons and aid provided by the West ..."
    --Wolfe63

    Wolfe63 has an absurd fantasy of Western powers providing 'weapons and aid' to the Chinese Communists.
    The USA provided arms exclusively to the KMT regime (led by Chiang Kai-shek).
    The UK (which was busy with its own problems) did not provide arms to China during the
    war, though it had sold a few arms to China (KMT regime) before the war.

    I don't recall that the Chinese Communists received any economic or even humanitarian aid from the USA.
    The Chinese Communists did purchase (using the funds of Chinese sympathizers) medical
    supplies abroad and have them shipped to China. This was NOT 'Western aid'.
    The Japanese wanted the Western powers to deny China the medical supplies that the
    Chinese had purchased with their own funds.

    By the way, a Chinese Communist diplomat who negotiated with the Vichy French regime
    in Indochina for the release of these medical supplies was Anna Wang (nee von Kleist?),
    an anti-Nazi Prussian aristocrat who had married a Chinese Communist (in exile in Berlin)
    and embraced the Chinese Revolution. The Vichy French were astonished to find the
    Communist Chinese represented by a German woman speaking fluent French.

    During the war (through 1945), the Chinese Communists were armed with weapons that
    they had captured from the KMT or the Japanese or perhaps had been able to make themselves.
    (The Chinese were able to manufacture some of their own arms during the war.)
    The Chinese Communists were not being supplied with weapons by foreign powers (including the USSR).

    The racist troll Wolfe63's right-wing delusions about Chinese history could be from the
    shrill right-wing American McCarthyist propaganda of 'Who lost China?' circa 1950.
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    10 May '18 21:50
    Originally posted by @ashiitaka
    The veneer slips away and ugly racism is revealed.
    What ever makes you feel better Ashiitake.

    As I said before...if you're going to dish out a bunch of bullshyt...be prepared to have some slopped upon your platter too.
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