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  1. Zugzwang
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    17 Apr '19 04:282 edits
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-6927741/Worlds-vagina-museum-London-tackle-taboos.html

    "World's first vagina museum in London to tackle taboos"

    "The museum will be inclusive of all genders because "not everyone
    who has a vagina is a woman, and not every woman has a vagina"."
  2. Subscriberchessturd
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    Each room has a smell I was told.
  3. Standard membershavixmir
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    @chessturd said
    Each room has a smell I was told.
    You should tell yo momma to shower, then.
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    @chessturd said
    Each room has a smell I was told.
    Fish & Chips maybe?
  5. Subscriberchessturd
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    LoL 😂
  6. Standard membershavixmir
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    @duchess64 said
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-6927741/Worlds-vagina-museum-London-tackle-taboos.html

    "World's first vagina museum in London to tackle taboos"

    "The museum will be inclusive of all genders because "not everyone
    who has a vagina is a woman, and not every woman has a vagina"."
    Oh.

    Yeah. I’m not quite sure what to make of that statement.
    You see, I’m pretty much of the persuasion that everyone is male, except those of us without testicles.
    It’s a language thing.

    Mankind, brothers in arms, etc. These terms can refer to men and/ or women.

    Logically, my argument could be turned around: everyone’s a woman, except those without a vagina, and I’d find it perfectly acceptable.

    The bits between the legs are what makes you, in my eyes, a man or a woman.
    And I don’t care which anyone is.

    I don’t actually find the distinction all that important. Everyone should be treated equally (as a starting point, obviously... I’m not suggesting Adolf Hitler should have equal rights to Stephen Fry) and people should behave as they want (in matters of dress, speech, love, etc.) and see fit. Without the threat of being boxed into any corner.

    That way, you can be a man (a cock), but dress up in the clothes you want, have sex with whoever you want and not need to feel discriminated or feel the urge to mutulate yourself.

    I find it sad that so many people want a sex change. Instead of just accepting what they’ve been dealt with and EVERYONE ELSE accepting that too.

    But, I’m old fashioned in that regard. Maybe (self-)mutulation goes beyond the realms of my understanding and that, even if everyone did accept the individual for who he/ she is, that they’d still feel the urge to change themselves physically.

    I know ladyboys (which is quite a horrible term) in thailand generally don’t mutulate themselves, but accept themselves physically.
    But I just saw a documentary on them and seemingly Thai acceptance of them is only centred around certain industries.

    Bloody depressing.

    Edit: I used the term cock, because my post was banned for using the formal term for it... a bit sick, considering the subject...
    Good grief.
  7. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    @chessturd said
    Each room has a smell I was told.
    You misheard.
    You were told you have a smell in every room.

    The smell is "Retard for Men" I believe.
  8. Standard membershavixmir
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    @wolfgang59 said
    You misheard.
    You were told you have a smell in every room.

    The smell is "Retard for Men" I believe.
    Haha.

    Classic!
  9. Zugzwang
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    17 Apr '19 12:33
    @shavixmir said
    Oh.

    Yeah. I’m not quite sure what to make of that statement.
    You see, I’m pretty much of the persuasion that everyone is male, except those of us without testicles.
    It’s a language thing.

    Mankind, brothers in arms, etc. These terms can refer to men and/ or women.

    Logically, my argument could be turned around: everyone’s a woman, except those without a vagina, an ...[text shortened]... t was banned for using the formal term for it... a bit sick, considering the subject...
    Good grief.
    "The bits between the legs are what makes you, in my eyes, a man or a woman."
    --Shavixmir

    KellyJay shares this primitive belief of determining gender identity.
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    17 Apr '19 14:33
    @duchess64 said
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-6927741/Worlds-vagina-museum-London-tackle-taboos.html

    "World's first vagina museum in London to tackle taboos"

    "The museum will be inclusive of all genders because "not everyone
    who has a vagina is a woman, and not every woman has a vagina"."
    I'm sure this will greatly alter the course of world events. 😴
  11. Standard membervivify
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    @duchess64 said
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-6927741/Worlds-vagina-museum-London-tackle-taboos.html

    "The museum will be inclusive of all genders because "not everyone
    who has a vagina is a woman, and not every woman has a vagina"."
    That's a stupid statement. It implies they would otherwise ban males if not for gender identity issues. I can't think of a less helpful way of making the female body less "taboo" than by making it forbidden to an entire sex.
  12. Zugzwang
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    @vivify said
    That's a stupid statement. It implies they would otherwise ban males if not for gender identity issues. I can't think of a less helpful way of making the female body less "taboo" than by making it forbidden to an entire sex.
    "The museum will be inclusive of ALL genders …"

    How has Vivify managed to misconstrue that statement into his claim
    "It implies they would otherwise ban males if not for gender identity issues." ?

    Why does Vivify apparently think that males are NOT included in 'ALL genders'?
  13. Standard membervivify
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    17 Apr '19 15:331 edit
    @duchess64 said
    "The museum will be inclusive of ALL genders …"

    How has Vivify managed to misconstrue that statement into his claim
    "It implies they would otherwise ban males if not for gender identity issues." ?

    Why does Vivify apparently think that males are NOT included in 'ALL genders'?
    If the quote was simply that it will be inclusive of all genders, that would be fine.

    It's the *reason* given after the word "because" that the issue. This implies that if gender and sex were always the same, that males wouldn't be allowed.

    Otherwise, I give kudos to this museum for the idea.
  14. Standard membershavixmir
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    17 Apr '19 16:031 edit
    @duchess64 said
    "The bits between the legs are what makes you, in my eyes, a man or a woman."
    --Shavixmir

    KellyJay shares this primitive belief of determining gender identity.
    Quite possible, yet, it’s the same as any other method.

    I can drive in a car and call it a table.
    So, then you change the definitions to suit my personal preferences... and nothing changes.

    Change isn’t about definitions, change is about attitudes.
    Until you understand this, you’re going to be pushing the wrong buttons and achieving nothing.
  15. Zugzwang
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    17 Apr '19 16:081 edit
    @vivify said
    If the quote was simply that it will be inclusive of all genders, that would be fine.

    It's the *reason* given after the word "because" that the issue. This implies that if gender and sex were always the same, that males wouldn't be allowed.

    Otherwise, I give kudos to this museum for the idea.
    Many men seem paranoid about being slighted in a world of non-traditional gender.
    They really should learn not to be so oversensitive (a stereotypically feminine characteristic).

    "The museum will be inclusive of all genders because "not everyone
    who has a vagina is a woman, and not every woman has a vagina"."

    That statement should be construed as simply asserting that the museum does
    NOT subscribe to a traditional gender binary (everyone's either male or female)
    and includes everyone regardless of gender identity.
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