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    29 Jul '15 01:091 edit
    http://rense.com/general67/oils.htm

    It seems so easy to believe this idea. Oil contributes greatly to polluting the environment. The industrial age has intensified its use greatly. The more we use, the more we lose fresh air, even the ozone. And therefore it seems almost divine justice that we are about to exhaust this so-called "fossil fuel" within several decades and two hundred years, this cursed blessed hydrocarbon which took millions of years to produce.

    And, therefore, it almost seems we get what we deserve: a petro-powered society in which once the oil supposedly runs out we will suffer mass annihilations of population, famine, war, total deceleration, a withdrawal into the caves. And, therefore, we should have our prophet From the Wilderness.com, Michael Ruppert, predict this on an ongoing basis. And his biblical tome, Crossing the Rubicon shall subhead the big idea: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil. Well, no, not so, kimosabe, not by a long shot.

    To begin with, oil is not a fossil fuel. This is a theory put forth by 18th century scientists. Within 50 years, Germany and France's scientists had attacked the theory of petroleum's biological roots. In fact, oil is abiotic, not the product of long decayed biological matter. And oil, for better or for worse, is not a non-renewable resource. It, like coal, and natural gas, replenishes from sources within the mantle of earth. This is the real and true science of oil. Read all about it.

    In fact, working in the 1950s, Russian and Ukrainian scientists, cut off from the Western World's oil supply, applied their keen minds to the problem and, by the 1960s, had thoroughly demolished the idea of oil as a 'fossil fuel,' Is it any wonder then that Russia is one of if not the leading producers and exporters of oil. The isolation of the Cold War forced Russia to dig deeper, literally, to find oil deeper in the earth in some places, and to look in other places where no one had thought to look to reveal more. This while America feels incumbent upon itself, since it claims oil production and discovery has peaked and will fade to nothing in several decades, that America's feels it must make war to take other people's oil: Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, the Caspian Basin, Sudan, etcetera.

    And to others who have oil, it must either rattle its saber, as with Venezuela, threaten to kill its president who will not buckle and sell all his oil to America. And with the Saudis we will protect them from their own terrorists and any Saddam that comes along. And we will get in bed with them so long as we can have the lion's share of their oil, and the say-so as to who gets the rest. And therein lays the evil genius, secret and sham of the 'Peak Oil' put on.

    If oil, as coal, and natural gas, restores itself by nature, if we will more likely run into it then out of it, how do we continue to make money on it? Certainly not by giving oil away at some reasonable price. After World War II, oil was about 25 cents a gallon at the pump. Even given the spiraling inflation since then-last week I paid $3.50 a gallon for it in New York City, 14 times that price. A week after the summer holiday season ended (the peak usage season), oil is down to $3 a gallon. I doubt if I'm the only one who notices oil's price shoot up every summer, then slither down a bit after, and then climb up in the middle of the winter when the heating bills waft in, and old and poor people who can't afford the hikes begin to freeze and die in their own homes.

    Someone is shilling for the American petro-brokers, because 'Peak Oil' is a wonderful concept to use to go out and war for "the control" of oil resources. So that a barrel of crude can suddenly jump from $20 to $70 to $100 a barrel, or to two, three or four hundred dollars a barrel, therefore providing exponentially expanding profits for oil companies and oil suppliers who relish the idea of having an "inelastic demand" for their gasoline. 'Peak Oil,' as writer Dave McGowan points out in his priceless Newsletters, which you can find at Educate-Yourself.org, 'Peak Oil' will even drive oil companies like Shell, to attempt to shut down an incredibly profitable facility, like the one it owns in Bakersfield, California,.

    This Bakersfield facility, like others in California, runs along the San Andreas fault line, which abounds along its route through the state with rich crude oil and natural gas fields, products of seepage from the earth's mantle, from the tectonic plates, as Dave would say, 'passing gas' and rumbling as they move. In fact, oil and the family of hydrocarbons are often found at volcanoes and fault lines, as they are in deserts, watery gulfs, and sea basins. Let's demystify it all.

    The real reason a company like Shell Oil would close a facility like Bakersfield-to bulldoze it, stop it-is to halt the production, refining, and supply to drive up the price of oil. It's that goddamn simple and ugly. And we're doing the same thing today in Iraq, bulldozing a country, to control and reduce its oil supply. Never mind supplying a botched democracy that we can't even supply for ourselves in America.

    Concurrently, we are also bringing apocalypse to its population, thinning it with more than 100,000 dead, tearing its infrastructure apart, water, sewage, power, media, hospitals, name it. We are decentralizing Iraq's cities, driving people out of them or out of the country, or bombing them back to the Stone Age as our generals are so found of saying. And Iraq, like Afghanistan, is the paradigm of the future, of how we will engulf and devour countries, cities, even our own, like New Orleans for instance, whose Gulf is a rich source of oil, and through whose ports pass a large percentage of our nation's supply.

    The U.S. political henchmen are thinning the Iraq population to fatten the profits of the oil barons like David Rockefeller. In McGowan's own inimical words, from page three of another Newsletter:

    THE ROCKEFELLER CORPORATE OIL MAJORS should be thrown into jail for selling fraudulently priced items as well as cheating on generations of their corporate taxes (due to tax write off 'depletion allowances,' which they knew were lies. This abiotic oil story is perhaps the largest underground ((no pun intended)) scam story of the past 200 years: an ongoing corporate success of pricing abiotic renewable oil to act out an artificial scarcity, combined with all the related ideologies required to sell that motif of artificial scarcity, and all the millions they have made and still make on the fraud, and all the tax dollars they have, stolen, etc."

    In this concept of 'Peak Oil' you have the system's secret to hold the world hostage. Not that we shouldn't take care to not overuse oil, not that we should avoid conservation, or even to stop poking the planet, and actually seek purely organic ways in which to live. But now, now that we are here, and have billions of people to sustain, we must not let vast numbers of them be harmed, murdered, abused, because of feigned shortages, economies overturned by outrageous prices, everyday working people be bankrupted by same, to get to work, to warm their homes, to cook their families' food, to participate in an organized society. We must not make the beasts, the Bilderbergers, the elites, the oligarchs use the 'Peak Oil' lever to bend the backs of the world on its wrack.

    Believing in 'Peak Oil' is not a price to pay to avoid the price of drilling for oil in new ways, for setting fair and unwavering commodity prices. The cost of blood and lives and the future of nations are too much to pay for the folly of 'Peak Oil.' In fact, realizing that oil is a self-renewing resource puts the neocon agenda into a new perspective. Instead of seeing 'Peak Oil' as the end days of technological civilization literally losing its power, see this idea as the further manipulation towards fascist power and subjugation that it is: still another way to scare the world into believing its resources are terminally finite, and that we must be led into another and another war that must be waged to survive.

    If we do not accept the lie, the manipulation of 'Peak Oil," it is not to say we can't devise new systems to bring life and the world forward. It is only to put the petroleum barons on notice. It then gives us a chance to bring people together, to tear away the false scarcity, to share resources, to experience peace, to alleviate poverty with the abundance of renewable hydrocarbon resources, as with the abundance of the human imagination. Or else we end up with another Ruppert rubric, Sizing Up the Competition - Is China the Endgame?, another piece of priceless paranoia to peddle for perdition, another dark ops for a bright new generation of believers. More war, endless war it is, to enrich the already rich, to impoverish the already poor.

    Do not let this happen, even in the short run. As reported by the Energy Information Administration, International Energy Agency, files: "THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF OIL."

    "Before hurricane Katrina reached the shores of the Gulf of Mexico, most oil companies had taken the precautionary measure of evacuating their 30,000 offshore employees and shuttering their platforms and oil rigs. Therefore, it was not a surprise that on Aug. 30, some 95% of the Gulf's production of 1.5 million barrels of oil per day was 'shut.' By Sept. 6, that figure had dropped to 58%, with close to half of the oil production capacity having been restored.

    "On Sept. 2, the 26-nation International Energy Agency agreed to make Available to the U.S., 2 million barrels of oil per day, half petroleum and half gasoline. In other words, when the gasoline shipments start arriving from Europe in the next week or so, along with the 1 million barrels per day from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which are being released under IEA guidelines,...
  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    29 Jul '15 01:324 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://rense.com/general67/oils.htm

    It seems so easy to believe this idea. Oil contributes greatly to polluting the environment. The industrial age has intensified its use greatly. The more we use, the more we lose fresh air, even the ozone. And therefore it seems almost divine justice that we are about to exhaust this so-called "fossil fuel" within severa ...[text shortened]... day from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which are being released under IEA guidelines,...
    This article was written 10 years ago by a liberal for the main purpose of attacking the Bush administration in support of the liberal Democrats who were in opposition to any success by Republicans. It is obviously a mixture of truth and lies in the same manner as Satan often used to deceive the whole world. 😏

    Obama urges us to end our addiction to fossil fuels

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    The Myth of Fossil Fuels

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    OIL is NOT a FOSSIL fuel

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    29 Jul '15 06:00
    Yes. Oil is really a fossil fuel.

    The stuff people come up with nowadays...
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    29 Jul '15 10:511 edit
    Just a quick question whodey: do you personally believe oil is not a fossil fuel, or are you just posting what you know to be lies as usual?
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    29 Jul '15 14:27
    Some scientists claim that they can turn algae into oil in about a half hour.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2013/12/23/green-oil-scientists-turn-algae-into-petroleum-in-30-minutes/
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    29 Jul '15 14:34
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Some scientists claim that they can turn algae into oil in about a half hour.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2013/12/23/green-oil-scientists-turn-algae-into-petroleum-in-30-minutes/
    I am curious as to why you thought that was relevant to this thread. Did you have nothing to say so just Googled the word 'oil' and posted the first link?
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    29 Jul '15 14:541 edit
    I heard about this and know that many out there believe oil is a process that requires millions of years. You know, the amount of time it takes to make a fossil. If it can be made in 30 minutes, then I'd venture to guess that it isn't simply a fossil fuel.

    I'm surprised that I'd have to explain that to a person who reads this forum. People around here are supposed to be smarter than the average bear. But then again, you might still qualify for that status in Africa.
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    29 Jul '15 18:08
    Originally posted by Eladar
    I heard about this and know that many out there believe oil is a process that requires millions of years. You know, the amount of time it takes to make a fossil. If it can be made in 30 minutes, then I'd venture to guess that it isn't simply a fossil fuel.

    I'm surprised that I'd have to explain that to a person who reads this forum. People around here a ...[text shortened]... arter than the average bear. But then again, you might still qualify for that status in Africa.
    Well based on your explanation, you are not smarter than the average bear. We don't have too many bears in Africa, but our lions are pretty sharp.

    So, just to clarify, are you saying that you think oil is regenerating itself and most oil wells will simply never run dry?
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    29 Jul '15 18:20
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Well based on your explanation, you are not smarter than the average bear. We don't have too many bears in Africa, but our lions are pretty sharp.

    So, just to clarify, are you saying that you think oil is regenerating itself and most oil wells will simply never run dry?
    My comment was about oil being a 'fossil' fuel, nothing more.
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    29 Jul '15 18:28
    Originally posted by Eladar
    My comment was about oil being a 'fossil' fuel, nothing more.
    Why does the potential to manufacture synthetic oil ( from algae for example) demonstrate that oil is not a fossil fuel? Does the potential to make light from a light bulb prove that the Sun is not shining after all?
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    29 Jul '15 18:361 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    My comment was about oil being a 'fossil' fuel, nothing more.
    Well then clarify please. How long do you believe it took the oil in oil wells to get there? A rough estimate.
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    29 Jul '15 18:41
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Well then clarify please. How long do you believe it took the oil in oil wells to get there? A rough estimate.
    All it takes is a half hour under the correct conditions. If there were cataclysmic events then what has been sitting there for many years may have been made in much less time.
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    29 Jul '15 18:57
    Originally posted by Eladar
    All it takes is a half hour under the correct conditions. If there were cataclysmic events then what has been sitting there for many years may have been made in much less time.
    This is fun. I wonder under what conditions the oil deposits we have discovered were laid down in Eladar's scenario, debunking several centuries of geology.
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    29 Jul '15 19:13
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am curious as to why you thought that was relevant to this thread. Did you have nothing to say so just Googled the word 'oil' and posted the first link?
    At least he is posting something substantive, adding to the discussion, rather than simply holding your breath and saying no while turning blue.
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    29 Jul '15 19:29
    Originally posted by finnegan
    This is fun. I wonder under what conditions the oil deposits we have discovered were laid down in Eladar's scenario, debunking several centuries of geology.
    The fact that oil can be made from algae in 30 minutes just goes to show that it need not take millions of years to make oil deposits. It's been demonstrated and repeated.
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