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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    08 Apr '13 12:17 / 2 edits
    The Rt Hon. The Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS. RIP 8th April 2013.

    Very successful retail politician. Very divisive figure. Sad how she ended up, with the dementia etc.

    I still remember the moment I heard she had resigned.
  2. 08 Apr '13 12:34
    Originally posted by FMF
    The Rt Hon. The Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS. RIP 8th April 2013.

    Very successful retail politician. Very divisive figure. Sad how she ended up, with the dementia etc.

    I still remember the moment I heard she had resigned.
    my initial reaction was one of joy, i had a big smile that the day had finally come. after a few excited email exchanges with friends it dawned on me that her death is meaningless the damage was done a long time ago, her being dead or alive makes no difference. im more concerned listening to the radio that she is stirring the nostalgic emotions of the right, perfect for the tories to slip in some more working class crushing policies.
  3. 08 Apr '13 12:35
    Originally posted by FMF
    The Rt Hon. The Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS. RIP 8th April 2013.

    Very successful retail politician. Very divisive figure. Sad how she ended up, with the dementia etc.

    I still remember the moment I heard she had resigned.
    Good riddance to her.

    Didn't her son Mark try to take over
    some African country in a coup?

    And then the silly b*****d had to be rescued
    and brought home. He should be in jail.
  4. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    08 Apr '13 13:41
    Good riddance to her. May she rot in hell.
  5. 08 Apr '13 14:18
    To all who i told I'd play chess against tonight, sorry, I'm going to be wasted. I'm making myself a big badge now, and then I'm off into town.

    "One thing I'll say for Thatcher, some amazing songs were written during her reign"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAX8ElNW8-E
  6. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    08 Apr '13 14:22
    Originally posted by Dewi Jones
    "One thing I'll say for Thatcher, some amazing songs were written during her reign"
    This one, for instance, by E.Costello:

    I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
    A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
    She spills with compassion, as that young childs
    Face in her hands she grips
    Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
    Coming down on that childs lips

    Well I hope I don't die too soon
    I pray the lord my soul to save
    Oh I'll be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
    Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live
    Long enough to savour
    That's when they finally put you in the ground
    Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

    When england was the whore of the world
    Margeret was her madam
    And the future looked as bright and as clear as
    The black tarmacadam
    Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt
    Haunted by every tiny detail
    Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
    All she thought of was betrayal

    And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
    Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son
    And how it's only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
    Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
    Try telling me she isn't angry with this pitiful discontent
    When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
    And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased
    Because youve only got the symptoms, you haven't got the whole disease
    Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can
    Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
    Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed
    Who takes all the glory and none of the shame

    Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep
    I think I'll be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
    I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
    Cos when they finally put you in the ground
    They'll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down
  7. 08 Apr '13 14:35
    Ordinary Man, Peter Hames

    I'm an ordinary man, nothin' special nothin' grand,
    I've had to work for everything I own,
    Well I never asked for a lot, I was happy with what I got,
    Enough to keep my family and my home,
    Now they say that times are hard & they've handed me my cards,
    They say there's not the work to go around,
    When the whistle blows the gates will finally close,
    Tonight they're going to shut this factory down,
    Then they'll tear it down.

    I never missed a day nor went on strike for better pay,
    For 20 years I served them best I could,
    With a handshake and a cheque it seems so easy to forget,
    Loyalty through the bad times and the good,
    The owner says he's sad to see that things have got so bad,
    But the Captains of industry won't let him loose,
    He still drives a car and smokes a cigar,
    And still he takes his family on a cruise,
    He'll never lose.

    Now it seems to me to be such a cruel irony,
    He's richer now ever he was before,
    Now my cheque is all spent and I can't afford the rent,
    There's one law for the rich, one for the poor,
    Every day I've tried to salvage some of my pride,
    To find some work so's I might pay my way,
    But everywhere I go, the answer is always no,
    There's no work for anyone here today,
    No work today.

    And so condemned I stand, just an ordinary man,
    Like thousands beside me in the queue,
    I watch my darlin' wife tryin' to make the best of life,
    God knows what the kids are goin' to do,
    Now that we are faced with this human waste,
    A generation cast aside,
    For as long as I live, I never will forgive,
    You've stripped me of my dignity & pride,
    You've stripped me bare.
  8. 08 Apr '13 14:37
    And the very best one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhVNgoKEWlw

    This is what I'll be singing at the bar tonight

    Come gather round me people and I'll sing to you a song
    About a famous battle that went on for so long
    It's a tale of grief and courage of pain and bravery
    One of the finest pages written in our history
    We all know songs that tell of workers' struggles long ago
    Of UCS, Tolpuddle, Shrewsbury, Pentonville and so I'm here
    To sing to you the praises of the women and the men
    Who dared the might of Tory spite the future to defend
    Twas in March of 1984 the gauntlet was thrown down
    When MacGregor told the NUM, "These pits are closing down"
    "Och, get on your bike, MacGregor", the miners' answer came
    "We fought the Board in 74 and we'll fight you once again"
    From S Wales across to Yorkshire, from Scotland down to Kent
    The miners showed the NCB that what they said, they meant
    Except the scabs who sold their future out to Thatcher and her gang
    And turned traitor to their class, their names forever damned
    In Fleet Street and in Downing Street, a wondrous sight was seen
    New-found converts to democracy soon all began to scream
    "You can't strike without a ballot", well-fed mouths were heard to bleat,
    "You won't ballot us out of our jobs, we're voting with our feet"
    Soon armies of blue uniforms were marching through the land
    With horses, dogs and riot shields and truncheons in both hands
    But the miners took on everything the government could throw
    And went back again to battle on with shouts of "Here we go!"
    The battle wasn't only only by courageous mining men
    For the women joined the struggle fighting side by side with them
    In every area of battle women hurried to the fight
    At rallies and at meetings and out on the picket lines
    And in support groups up and down the land our comrades rallied round
    The cry went up "They Shall Not Starve" and cash and food were found
    To keep the miners and their families in solidarity
    And show the world the working class would never bow the knee
    Let's pause here to remember the men who gave their lives
    Joe Green and David Jones were killed in fighting for their rights
    But their courage and their sacrifice we never will forget
    And we won't forget the reason, too, they met an early death
    For the strikebreakers in uniforms were many thousand strong
    And any picket who was in the way was battered to the ground
    With police vans driving into them and truncheons on the head
    It's just a bloody miracle that hundreds more aren't dead
    So here's to Arthur Scargill, Heathfield and McGahey too
    Who led the strike together in defence of me and you
    And Malcolm Pitt and Davie Hamilton and the rest of them as well
    Who were torn from home and family and locked in prison cells
    But the battle will go on until the working class has won
    For the right to work and decent lives belongs to everyone
    We'll go forward now in unity, let's share the miners' load
    There can only be one answer - socialism, here we go!
  9. Subscriber divegeester
    Nice suit...
    08 Apr '13 14:52
    Elected by the British people to be the most successful PM since Churchill serving for 11 straight years in Number 10, freeing the UK of the tyranny of the unions, the strikes, the power cuts and the 3 day week. Enabling a freer economy where citizens could own their own home, driving the British economy from being in the wastelands to being a pioneer in steering us clear of early entry into a single currency and thereby avoiding the bloody carnage of the Eurozone. She overcame the inherent sexism in British politics to become the first female PM in our history and give women in this country the vision that rising to the top in corporate Britain is not only possible if you have the talent it's is desirable to have that diversity in leadership.

    And for what, so you puny men can gloat the death of an elderly woman and celebrate her demise with your stout and ale cronies. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
  10. 08 Apr '13 14:53
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Elected by the British people to be the most successful PM since Churchill serving for 11 straight years in Number 10, freeing the UK of the tyranny of the unions, the strikes, the power cuts and the 3 day week. Enabling a freer economy where citizens could own their own home, driving the British economy from being in the wastelands to being a pioneer in ...[text shortened]... and celebrate her demise with your stout and ale cronies. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    I didn't realise she was a woman.

    Oh well done to her then.
  11. 08 Apr '13 15:03
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Elected by the British people to be the most successful PM since Churchill serving for 11 straight years in Number 10, freeing the UK of the tyranny of the unions, the strikes, the power cuts and the 3 day week. Enabling a freer economy where citizens could own their own home, driving the British economy from being in the wastelands to being a pioneer in ...[text shortened]... and celebrate her demise with your stout and ale cronies. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    Elected by a minority of British people, and never elected by Wales, she destroyed the Welsh ec onomy, damaged the communities that sustained our language, organised arbitary arrest and surveilance of political enemies. She was also responsible for the death of 10 irish republican hunger strikers one an MP and another a TD. She politicised the police in order to win the miners strike, set them against the population of communities she stripped the jobs from, creating massive drug problems in the valleys. The damage she did to the british police force, the untouchable bullies she turned them into - created the circumstances for hillsborough and the shocking cover up which followed. She gave orders to murder hundreds of argentinians who were leaving a warzone, she took tea with pinochet for fugg sake.
  12. Subscriber divegeester
    Nice suit...
    08 Apr '13 15:12
    Originally posted by Dewi Jones
    Elected by a minority of British people, and never elected by Wales, she destroyed the Welsh ec onomy, damaged the communities that sustained our language, organised arbitary arrest and surveilance of political enemies. She was also responsible for the death of 10 irish republican hunger strikers one an MP and another a TD. She politicised the police in o ...[text shortened]... r hundreds of argentinians who were leaving a warzone, she took tea with pinochet for fugg sake.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22066507
  13. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    08 Apr '13 15:18
    Hate on display here today. If I outlive Obama I hope I behave better.
  14. 08 Apr '13 15:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Elected by the British people to be the most successful PM since Churchill serving for 11 straight years in Number 10, freeing the UK of the tyranny of the unions, the strikes, the power cuts and the 3 day week. Enabling a freer economy where citizens could own their own home, driving the British economy from being in the wastelands to being a pioneer in and celebrate her demise with your stout and ale cronies. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    'Elected by the British people'
    elected by 'some' of the british people.

    the most successful PM since Churchill
    churchill was rubbish as well.

    serving for 11 straight years
    11 years of misery.

    freeing the UK of the tyranny of the unions
    to be replaced with the tyranny of capitalism,

    Enabling a freer economy
    look how well thats working out.

    citizens could own their own home
    what is this british obsession with owning homes?!?!?!

    driving the British economy from being in the wastelands
    by selling everything we had....look where we are now with thatcher politics carried on with major and blair.

    She overcame the inherent sexism in British politics to become the first female PM in our history and give women in this country the vision that rising to the top in corporate Britain is not only possible if you have the talent it's is desirable to have that diversity in leadership.
    thats fair enough, if you are the kinda woman inspired by a heartless, ruthless b.i.t.c.h.


    And for what, so you puny men can gloat the death of an elderly woman and celebrate her demise with your stout and ale cronies. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    no im not ashamed one bit. maybe you did okay in the 80's, i grew up in an area that was destroyed by thatcher. i saw what it did to the families, i saw council estates go from clean, nice, respectable communities to depressed, drug riddled, crime riddled, holes of broken families full of despair, low self-esteem and zero aspirations. she did it, not the 3 day power cuts or the unions. she ripped the heart out of north and started this continuous degrading of the working class to the point now where they now sneered at as chavs and spongers.
  15. 08 Apr '13 15:29
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Hate on display here today. If I outlive Obama I hope I behave better.
    It's the same way when anyone famous and controversial dies.

    I think we could look up the thread where Ted Kennedy died and see the love that was shown there.