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  1. 09 Sep '10 18:44
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11234058
    Drug-related violence in Mexico increasingly has the hallmarks of an insurgency, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said.
    "
    The recent use of car bombs by drug cartels was one indication, she said, adding, "It's looking more and more like Colombia looked 20 years ago."

    Her comments were made following a major speech to US foreign policy experts in Washington.

    A Mexican government spokesman rejected Mrs Clinton's analogy.

    Speaking in Mexico City, Alejandro Poire said the only aspect that the Mexican and Colombian conflicts share is their root cause - a high demand for drugs in the US.

    Mr Poire also denied that the presence of drug cartels was tantamount to an insurgency, insisting that "all the efforts of the Mexican state were going into fighting criminals"."


    "The violence in Mexico was beginning to resemble Colombia of 20 years ago where insurgent groups at one time or another controlled some 40% of the country, Mrs Clinton added."
    ...
    "More than 28,000 people have died in drug-related violence in Mexico since President Felipe Calderon deployed the army to fight the cartels in 2006 and violence has spilled over into Central America."


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    any thoughts?
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    09 Sep '10 19:20
    Remember the Roaring 20's?
  3. 09 Sep '10 19:37
    a.....no
  4. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    09 Sep '10 19:52
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIF_WdPUBFo
  5. 09 Sep '10 22:54
    there was a headline today that Mexico is tired of the drug wars and is considering legalization but i didn't click on it.

    i guess it makes sense. they're probably losing a lot more people to the drug war than they are to overdoses.
  6. 10 Sep '10 02:02
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Remember the Roaring 20's?
    good comparison.
  7. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    10 Sep '10 12:09
    Mexico is indeed a failed state. The culture of corruption which is prevalent there makes winning this "war" almost impossible in Mexico. The US must decide either to treat this as a war which is winnable and have the balls to do it or give up and begin negotiations with the cartels to allow drugs to flow into the US.
    Choose the form of the Destructor.
  8. 10 Sep '10 12:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by caissad4
    Mexico is indeed a failed state. The culture of corruption which is prevalent there makes winning this "war" almost impossible in Mexico. The US must decide either to treat this as a war which is winnable and have the balls to do it or give up and begin negotiations with the cartels to allow drugs to flow into the US.
    Choose the form of the Destructor.
    They could fly drones across the border after spotting the drug lords on satellite and knock them off one by one.

    Of course, Mexico could protest, but why and with what army?

    Oh yea, and SECURE THE BORDER which they need to do anyway.
  9. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    10 Sep '10 12:36
    Originally posted by whodey
    They could fly drones across the border after spotting the drug lords on satellite and knock them off one by one.

    Of course, Mexico could protest, but why and with what army?

    Oh yea, and SECURE THE BORDER which they need to do anyway.
    Border? What border? A president of Mexico was quoted as saying that wherever there are Mexicans, that is Mexico. As stupid as that statement sounds it is not an isolated view. It is time to make a decision in the best interests of the US and stop pandering to our weak corrupt sister to the south.
  10. 10 Sep '10 13:58
    Originally posted by caissad4
    Mexico is indeed a failed state. The culture of corruption which is prevalent there makes winning this "war" almost impossible in Mexico. The US must decide either to treat this as a war which is winnable and have the balls to do it or give up and begin negotiations with the cartels to allow drugs to flow into the US.
    Choose the form of the Destructor.
    we could enforce complete inspections of all shipping into the US. i'm guessing they're not doing that now. let Mexico deal with the backup.
  11. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    10 Sep '10 17:32
    Originally posted by caissad4
    Border? What border? A president of Mexico was quoted as saying that wherever there are Mexicans, that is Mexico. As stupid as that statement sounds it is not an isolated view. It is time to make a decision in the best interests of the US and stop pandering to our weak corrupt sister to the south.
    The best interests of the US are to show respect to the indigenous people of North America.
  12. 10 Sep '10 17:33
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Remember the Roaring 20's?
    This is an ignorant comparison, to say the least.
    I don't recall ever hearing that during the 20s crime was so prevalent that the army had be sent in to fight the criminals, and that despite this intervention it was a major struggle.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    10 Sep '10 17:37 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Of course, Mexico could protest, but why and with what army?
    WARNING "BAD" WORDS ETC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yS6RtGogg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be0vgwF1S6s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO_3d12CSnk
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    10 Sep '10 17:52
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    This is an ignorant comparison, to say the least.
    I don't recall ever hearing that during the 20s crime was so prevalent that the army had be sent in to fight the criminals, and that despite this intervention it was a major struggle.
    Well, they also have the conquest of the Americas to get revenge for.
  15. 10 Sep '10 18:32
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Well, they also have the conquest of the Americas to get revenge for.
    wut