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  1. 03 Mar '15 11:05
    Getting rid of Assad is the goal, not getting rid of ISIS? Could it be true?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/weapons-for-the-islamic-state-isis-weapons-and-sanctions-against-russia-obama-prioritizes-weakening-russia-over-weakening-isis/5434466
  2. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    03 Mar '15 11:29
    Yes that makes sense and adds up fine.

    Certainly the very idea of dropping weapons in Syria for so called "moderates" to use against ISIS has always been a farce. There are no moderates to arm, only jihadists, and the weapons have always reached and will continue to reach ISIS. Moderates don't want arms and don't want to fight.

    What really makes sense though is the utter inability of Americans to give a tinker's curse about the Middle East or to understand any of its complexity. It is far easier for them to revert to the totally outmoded thinking of the Cold War, when life was simple. The point of the Edward Said book "Orientalism" was to demonstrate that the Americans and the Western Europeans have consistently dealt with a racist fantasy that they imagine resembles the Middle East, and refused to engage with its reality. That is a recipe for stupid and self defeating policies.

    A revealing phrase in your link was this - " Roosevelt met with the Saudi King and sealed the Saudi-U.S. alliance, in order to supply Saudi oil in return for U.S. protection of the Sauds against their own people.."
  3. 03 Mar '15 13:05
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    Getting rid of Assad is the goal, not getting rid of ISIS? Could it be true?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/weapons-for-the-islamic-state-isis-weapons-and-sanctions-against-russia-obama-prioritizes-weakening-russia-over-weakening-isis/5434466
    No. The goal is get rid of Assad because he won't buckle under to the NWO bankers and he also doesn't want to let the pipeline thru his country, plus the Russian base factor. What do you think Ukraine all about? . Same w/ Afghanistan. And Libya, and on and on. The powers that be won't be satisfied til they control ALL the worlds resourses. China,Russia,Iran possibly getting together and it's going to get really nasty for the USA.
  4. 03 Mar '15 13:40
    Originally posted by kquinn909
    No. The goal is get rid of Assad because he won't buckle under to the NWO bankers and he also doesn't want to let the pipeline thru his country, plus the Russian base factor. What do you think Ukraine all about? . Same w/ Afghanistan. And Libya, and on and on. The powers that be won't be satisfied til they control ALL the worlds resourses. China,Russia,Iran possibly getting together and it's going to get really nasty for the USA.
    We are all at war, whether the state run media will admit to it or not.

    Assad is a dead man.
  5. 14 Mar '15 12:31
    yes nwo zionist bankers indeed! glad to see someone on the internet has some understanding of what's really going on! hehe
    and what about the the open concentration camp they are running in Palestine?! shocking.
  6. 14 Mar '15 18:57 / 1 edit
    Obama's goal is not to weaken Russia, just strengthen ISIS. Obama's Arab spring needs more weapons!

    Obama is doing a great job of weakening the US on many fronts:

    Gives arms to Mexican gangs
    Gives arms to Islamic terrorists
    Giving Nukes to Iran
    Taking US troops out of the Middle East destabilizing the region
    Taking down dictators that keep the peace

    Go Obama go