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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    14 Nov '16 09:36
    Names head of the Republican National Committee, Reince Preibus, White House Chief of Staff. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-immigration-20161113-story.html

    Hmmm .........................................
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    it is relevant at about 2:30: Christ Christie plus Giuliani. added bonus: a guy who thinks global warming is "silly" and someone who thinks homosexuality is a choice
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    It has been speculated that Ben Carson will be secretary of education
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    14 Nov '16 10:241 edit
    Yesterday he also said that he had "No problem" with the SCOTUS decision to strike down State laws banning same sex marriages. I wonder if that's a position the 81% of evangelicals who voted for him realized he held.

    EDIT: Probably not since in January on Fox News he had said he disagreed with the ruling and would "strongly consider" appointing justices who would overturn it.http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/trump-suggests-overturning-same-sex-marriage.html
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    14 Nov '16 11:56
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Yesterday he also said that he had "No problem" with the SCOTUS decision to strike down State laws banning same sex marriages. I wonder if that's a position the 81% of evangelicals who voted for him realized he held.

    EDIT: Probably not since in January on Fox News he had said he disagreed with the ruling and would "strongly consider" appointing justic ...[text shortened]... t.http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/trump-suggests-overturning-same-sex-marriage.html
    This is the problem, I'm not sure even he knows what his position is. It's what has led most people to say that he just says what the people in the room at the time want to hear.
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    14 Nov '16 15:03
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Names head of the Republican National Committee, Reince Preibus, White House Chief of Staff. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-immigration-20161113-story.html

    Hmmm .........................................
    Preibus is a good choice. It's Bannon that has me concerned.
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    14 Nov '16 15:05
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    This is the problem, I'm not sure even he knows what his position is. It's what has led most people to say that he just says what the people in the room at the time want to hear.
    It was obvious from his 60 Minutes interview that he has no intention of trying to roll back same sex marriage.

    I'd think that gay rights advocates would be relieved.
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    14 Nov '16 15:08
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    This is the problem, I'm not sure even he knows what his position is. It's what has led most people to say that he just says what the people in the room at the time want to hear.
    Trump said, "If you like your fence you will be able to keep your fence, and it will be affordable." 😵
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    14 Nov '16 15:091 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    It was obvious from his 60 Minutes interview that he has no intention of trying to roll back same sex marriage.

    I'd think that gay rights advocates would be relieved.
    Which means he has no intention of overturning Roe vs. Wade either.

    The system truly is rigged.
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    14 Nov '16 15:121 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Which means he has no intention of overturning Roe vs. Wade either.

    The system truly is rigged.
    Actually, he was much more hostile to abortion rights.

    Though it's true that the same Justices who are anti-abortion are more likely to be anti-same sex marriage and vice versa.
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    14 Nov '16 15:23
    Originally posted by sh76
    Actually, he was much more hostile to abortion rights.

    Though it's true that the same Justices who are anti-abortion are more likely to be anti-same sex marriage and vice versa.
    Trump just needs to go on "Star Search" and find that ever elusive candidate who is ant-abortion but pro-gay marriage.

    He could pick me. I support the government getting out of the marriage business altogether.

    Maybe if I paint myself orange.
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    14 Nov '16 16:54
    Originally posted by sh76
    Preibus is a good choice. It's Bannon that has me concerned.
    Good choice or not, it renders dubious the claims that Trump is some outsider who was going to "drain the swamp" in Washington of insiders.

    Bannon's a bone to alt-right; doubt he'll be in there very long. Amusingly, he's another ex-Goldman Sachs guy.
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    14 Nov '16 17:05
    Originally posted by sh76
    It was obvious from his 60 Minutes interview that he has no intention of trying to roll back same sex marriage.

    I'd think that gay rights advocates would be relieved.
    Enter a radical homophobe who feels cheated by Donald Trump and feels like exercising his Second Amendment rights...
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    14 Nov '16 17:151 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Actually, he was much more hostile to abortion rights.

    Though it's true that the same Justices who are anti-abortion are more likely to be anti-same sex marriage and vice versa.
    It would be interesting to hear a principled legal argument that would support Obergefell v. Hodges but oppose Roe v. Wade.
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    14 Nov '16 18:09
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    It would be interesting to hear a principled legal argument that would support Obergefell v. Hodges but oppose Roe v. Wade.
    The only principle you'd need to accept to reconcile those positions would be that a fetus has a right to life.
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