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  1. Standard membershavixmir
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    27 Jun '17 13:18
    “the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls”

    - Paul Simon –

    “You that never done nothin'
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it's your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly

    You fasten all the triggers
    For the others to fire
    Then you set back and watch
    When the death count gets higher
    You hide in your mansion'
    As young people's blood
    Flows out of their bodies
    And is buried in the mud”

    - Bob Dylan –

    “41 shots, Lena gets her son ready for school
    She says, "On these streets, Charles
    You've got to understand the rules
    If an officer stops you, promise me you'll always be polite
    And that you'll never ever run away
    Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"”

    - Bruce Springsteen –

    “Don't scab for the bosses,
    Don't listen to their lies.
    Us poor folks haven't got a chance
    Unless we organize.”

    - Pete Seeger -

    So, I give to you that Paul was wrong.
    The prophecies aren't written on the subway walls, but are worded by musicians instead.

    “As if I really didn't understand
    That I was just another part of their plan
    I went off looking for the promise
    Believing in the Motherland

    And from the comfort of a dreamer's bed
    And the safety of my own head
    I went on speaking of the future
    While other people fought and bled

    The kid I was when I first left home
    Was looking for his freedom and a life of his own
    But the freedom that he found wasn't quite as sweet
    When the truth was known
    I have prayed for America
    I was made for America
    It's in my blood and in my bones
    By the dawn's early light
    By all I know is right
    We're going to reap what we have sown

    As if freedom was a question of might
    As if loyalty was black and white
    You hear people say it all the time-
    "My country wrong or right"

    I want to know what that's got to do
    With what it takes to find out what's true
    With everyone from the President on down
    Trying to keep it from you

    The thing I wonder about the Dads and Moms
    Who send their sons to the Vietnams
    Will they really think their way of life
    Has been protected as the next war comes?

    I have prayed for America
    I was made for America
    Her shining dream plays in my mind
    By the rockets red glare
    A generation's blank stare
    We better wake her up this time
    The kid I was when I first left home
    Was looking for his freedom and a life of his own
    But the freedom that he found wasn't quite a sweet
    When the truth was known
    I have prayed for America
    I was made for America
    I can't let go till she comes around
    Until the land of the free
    Is awake and can see
    And until her conscience has been found”

    - Jackson Browne -
  2. Subscribersonhouse
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    27 Jun '17 13:261 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    “the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls”

    - Paul Simon –

    “You that never done nothin'
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it's your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly

    You fasten all the triggers
    Fo ...[text shortened]... the free
    Is awake and can see
    And until her conscience has been found”

    - Jackson Browne -
    Dylan's Masters of war was certainly a masterpiece. One of the reasons he got the Nobel prize in literature. Don't forget Bruce Cockburn's Mines of Mozambique:

    YouTube

    I like the version on my CD, only his guitar I think, better version, the drums get in the way of the song on this track.
  3. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    27 Jun '17 13:35
    Y'all would have loved the Roger Waters concert I went to on Sunday. Great (great!) music, but the political hatred and Trump bashing on display was so cheap and pathetic it was comical.
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    27 Jun '17 13:391 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    “the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls”

    - Paul Simon –
    Very curious.

    Rush, on their Permanent Waves album, had a song called "The Spirit of Radio".

    The last verse of the song was:

    “For the words of the profits
    Are written on the studio wall,
    Concert hall –
    Echoes with the sounds…
    Of salesmen.”

    Supposedly a commentary on the commercialism of "album radio" back in the day, the similarity to the line by Paul Simon is interesting. Perhaps this has an origin somewhere else, and both borrowed from that?
  5. Standard membershavixmir
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    27 Jun '17 13:47
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Very curious.

    Rush, on their Permanent Waves album, had a song called "The Spirit of Radio".

    The last verse of the song was:

    “For the words of the profits
    Are written on the studio wall,
    Concert hall –
    Echoes with the sounds…
    Of salesmen.”

    Supposedly a commentary on the commercialism of "album radio" back in the day, the similarity to ...[text shortened]... l Simon is interesting. Perhaps this has an origin somewhere else, and both borrowed from that?
    Paul Simon's song's from the 60's.
    Never heard of Rush (I don't think).
  6. Standard membershavixmir
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    27 Jun '17 13:54
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Y'all would have loved the Roger Waters concert I went to on Sunday. Great (great!) music, but the political hatred and Trump bashing on display was so cheap and pathetic it was comical.
    I would have loved to see Waters! I'm jealous!

    But, I'm not surprised he did some Trump bashing. The man is quite intelligent and politically inclined.
  7. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    27 Jun '17 14:26
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I would have loved to see Waters! I'm jealous!

    But, I'm not surprised he did some Trump bashing. The man is quite intelligent and politically inclined.
    Like I said, you would have loved it.

    Here's a taste..
    YouTube
  8. SubscriberSuzianne
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    29 Jun '17 10:492 edits
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Paul Simon's song's from the 60's.
    Never heard of Rush (I don't think).
    Don't treat me like a child. I realize Paul Simon wrote "The Sound of Silence" in early 1964 and that it was included in Simon & Garfunkel's debut album, Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M., released in October of 1964, while Rush's album Permanent Waves was released on Jan. 1, 1980.

    I just noted the similarity of the line in "The Spirit of Radio" and wondered if there wasn't a prior source for the line, which both Paul Simon and Neil Peart copped the line from.

    Well, looking around on the web, I finally got my answer. As it turns out, Peart wrote the line in "The Spirit of Radio" as a direct parody of Simon's line, spelling prophets as profits to make his point. According to SongFacts.com, "Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sound Of Silence" contains the lyrics: "For the words of the prophets were written on the subway walls, and tenement halls... and echo with the sound of silence." These are parodied by Neil Peart into, "For the words of the profits are written on the studio wall, and concert halls.... and echo with the sound... of salesmen." Rush has been accused of taking themselves too seriously, but references like this show how they were slyly aware of the context in which they performed. That they could take themselves lightly was further borne out by their 2008 appearance on The Colbert Report."

    (Oh, and do yourself a favor, if you've truly "never heard" of Rush (a Canadian band), then give a listen to any of their albums between 2112 and Moving Pictures. Anything before that is good, too, but more eclectic, while anything after that has a sound that can only be described as "more produced", although Signals wasn't half bad.)
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