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    27 Jun '15 18:291 edit
    So what is worse? The Confederate flag or abortion when it comes to oppressing blacks?

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/06/25/abortion-has-killed-more-black-americans-than-crime-accidents-cancer-or-aids/

    This week Right to Life of Michigan launched a new website that exposes the massive amount of abortions taking place on African American babies in their state. The pro-life group reports that Black women had 13,065 (49.6 😵 of the 26,321 abortions performed on Michigan residents in 2014.
    Their website explains, “In the United States, the abortion rate for black women is almost 4 times that of white women. On average, 870 black babies are aborted every day in the United States. This tragedy continues to impact the population levels of African-Americans in the United States. The abortion racial disparity holds true when the focus is on Michigan statistics as well.”

    In announcing the new web page, Right to Life of Michigan said, “More than crime. More than accidents. More than cancer, heart disease and AIDS. Abortion has taken more black American lives than any other cause of death since 1973.”

    “Did you know that? Abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States, but for black Americans abortion causes more deaths every year than every other cause of death combined. Now is the time for this fact to be addressed in the media and in the classroom,” it added.

    It concluded: “This week Right to Life of Michigan has launched a new webpage to provide information and statistics on abortions in the black community to help encourage dialogue. The webpage also features a beautiful new full-color brochure that can be downloaded and printed for free, as well as links to our Compassion Project ads and contact information for Right to Life of Michigan’s Multicultural Outreach Office.”

    As LifeNews previously reported, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released its national abortion report last year and the new statistics reveal that Michigan is one of ten states in the U.S. that perform the most abortions on minority women. Unfortunately, every year in Michigan over 10,000 African American babies die in abortion as well as nearly a thousand Hispanic babies.

    According to the Census Bureau, Blacks and Hispanics comprise only 13.2% and 17.1% of the population respectively yet account for the most abortions. In fact, abortion ends the life of more African Americans than all other causes of death combined, including accidents, cancer, AIDS and violent crimes. These new statistics confirm a pattern that has been going on for years: the abortion industry, specifically Planned Parenthood, targets minority women.

    In the media, Planned Parenthood is praised for being “diverse”, but 79% of all their abortion facilities are located near minority neighborhoods. There is no way that’s simply “coincidental.” Since 1973, approximately 13 million black babies have been lost because of abortion, and out of the approximately 4000 abortions that are performed daily in the United States, 1452 of them are performed on African American women and their unborn children.

    In 2014, Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr., addressed abortion and racism. King said, “Right now in America almost half of our babies are being killed in the womb, and in certain parts of America more of our babies are being aborted than being born. While we were marching in the sixties, a place was being prepared for us at Planned Parenthood. We were trying to get off the back of the bus, and they were going to have a space for us in the front of the abortion mill.”
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    27 Jun '15 18:331 edit
    First Dims create slavery and the Confederate flag to oppress blacks, but when defeated in a Civil war they move on to Margaret Sanger who created Planned Parenthood as a means to snuff out the Black population. I'm sure Margeret is in the farthest reaches of hell with a grin on her face.

    If black abortions are outnumbering black births, will blacks simply die off someday?
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    27 Jun '15 18:58
    "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda"

    by Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood.

    "Today Eugenics is suggested by the most diverse minds as the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.

    ...

    As an advocate of Birth Control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the "unfit" and the "fit", admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation to the mentally and physically fit though less fertile parents of the educated and well-to-do classes. On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."

    https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/webedition/app/documents/show.php?sangerDoc=238946.xml
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    27 Jun '15 19:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    So what is worse? The Confederate flag or abortion when it comes to oppressing blacks?

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/06/25/abortion-has-killed-more-black-americans-than-crime-accidents-cancer-or-aids/

    This week Right to Life of Michigan launched a new website that exposes the massive amount of abortions taking place on African American babies in their s ...[text shortened]... back of the bus, and they were going to have a space for us in the front of the abortion mill.”
    once more, abortion and confederate flags have nothing in common.


    the fact that some choose to cherish a flag used by a pro-slavery army that wanted to tear up their country is their business. blacks and non rednecks want it taken down from government buildings, the government that is supposed to represent them. no abortions involved.


    and seriously, are you finding it surprising that some might be insulted to see that flag? the rest of the world is just surprised it took you so long.
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    27 Jun '15 20:34
    You think like a Yankee, Sir.
    The Confederate flag is simply an army flag uniting Southern troops, and Only 6% of the South owned slaves, and A lot of Southern counties didn't allow slavery at the beginning of the Civil War.

    What the South was fighting for was to stop what We have become. A huge government controlling our every day lives. Like forcing Obama care down our throats.

    Many Southerners have had Ancestors fight and die for that flag, and We honor their bravery in battle, by keeping their grave sites up, and museums, and monuments.

    If you can't understand that, then you are truly a Yankee and never will. All those who want to destroy our heritage and drag us down can kiss my rebel butt right where it's the brownest.
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    27 Jun '15 23:27
    Amen Brother. The rebel flag doesn't stand for KKK. It's stands for a history of our legacy. When our countries were divided. The liberals and media is trying to shove it down our throats. And so many people are caving into this craze.
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    27 Jun '15 23:311 edit
    Originally posted by SERGEANTPMAIN
    You think like a Yankee, Sir.
    The Confederate flag is simply an army flag uniting Southern troops, and Only 6% of the South owned slaves, and A lot of Southern counties didn't allow slavery at the beginning of the Civil War.

    What the South was fighting for was to stop what We have become. A huge government controlling our every day lives. Like for ...[text shortened]... t to destroy our heritage and drag us down can kiss my rebel butt right where it's the brownest.
    So you condemn using the confederate battle flag as a symbol of white supremacy by a shooter of blacks. That usage dishonors those who you honor. Right?
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    28 Jun '15 00:39
    Originally posted by SERGEANTPMAIN
    You think like a Yankee, Sir.
    The Confederate flag is simply an army flag uniting Southern troops, and Only 6% of the South owned slaves, and A lot of Southern counties didn't allow slavery at the beginning of the Civil War.

    What the South was fighting for was to stop what We have become. A huge government controlling our every day lives. Like for ...[text shortened]... t to destroy our heritage and drag us down can kiss my rebel butt right where it's the brownest.
    "Many Southerners have had Ancestors fight and die for that flag"
    nope. nobody dies for a flag. people die for what it stands for.

    and the people that died in the civil war on the confederate side did so to preserve slavery.
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    28 Jun '15 00:41
    The confederate flag is a symbol of treason and racism.
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    28 Jun '15 01:23
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    The confederate flag is a symbol of treason and racism.
    This is BS, and evidence that we ought not allow immigration without an understanding of American history.
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    28 Jun '15 01:53
    Originally posted by JS357
    So you condemn using the confederate battle flag as a symbol of white supremacy by a shooter of blacks. That usage dishonors those who you honor. Right?
    Since I saw no reply to your post I feel compelled to respond.
    My family tree goes back to the 1670's in the Carolinas, including a S. Carolina governor. In the Civil War most of my ancestors fought and died for the Confederacy. A tree became a sapling in genealogical terms. I have always had a strong sense of pride that my ancestors were willing to fight and die for their beliefs. I feel dishonored .
    My disgust with the perversion being perpetrated by some groups has changed my view of this flag. I now feel that it has no place at any government building.
    It now falls to the level of the Nazi flag (a Hindu symbol of life) in its' level of perversion. :'(
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    28 Jun '15 02:05
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    The confederate flag is a symbol of treason and racism.
    I am pretty sure it was intended to be a symbol of the Confederate States of American as an independent nation standing up for states rights and against the use of dictorial power from the northern states.
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    28 Jun '15 05:42
    You are right , Sir.
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    28 Jun '15 05:50
    That Man who killed innocent American people should be dealt with according to law, which I hope will be death.
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    28 Jun '15 05:56
    People like you keep causing more problems than need be.
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