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@Metal-Brain saidRead the fvcking news, my dude.
What did they each say about Trump that was so bad?
https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, citing “profound differences.”
Sarah Matthews, a former Trump aide who testified before the House Jan. 6 committee and is among those warning about the threat he poses, said it’s “mind-boggling” how many members of his senior staff have denounced him.
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@shavixmir saidJohn Bolton tried to assassinate Maduro without Trump's knowledge.
Read the fvcking news, my dude.
https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, c ...[text shortened]... e poses, said it’s “mind-boggling” how many members of his senior staff have denounced him.
Bolton was unfit for the job.
Dennis Blair, the White House's chief co-ordinator of intelligence in the fight against terrorism, resigned last night at the end of a difficult 16 months in office marked by infighting with other administration figures and growing doubts about his grip on the job.
Rumours have swirled for months in Washington that Blair's tenure as national intelligence director was ending, following a sequence of turf battles with colleagues and criticism over the way he handled the failed Christmas Day bombing attempt on a plane bound for Detroit.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/21/white-house-dennis-blair-quits
https://rollcall.com/2017/05/10/a-list-of-notable-presidential-firings-since-1951/
@wildgrass saidYou think the US is on sound financial footing, do you? When the debt is what?
Think, mate?. This is math, not philosophy.
Yes, it's decreasing. It's almost back down to 2019 levels.
The consistent pattern for the last 44 years: Republican presidents increase deficit spending, while democrats decrease it. You can call it partisan if you want, but I'll retract that statement at the exact point when Republicans buck the trend.
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker/
@KellyJay saidNot what I wrote, Kelly.
You think the US is on sound financial footing, do you? When the debt is what?
Republicans spend like drunken sailors, Democrats come in and attempt to have grown up conversations, clean up the mess, but then voters think that's boring and so they vote the Republican back in because they promise tax cuts.
This cycle has repeated for 44 years. But the clearest example of this craziness is the period from 2017-2018. Economy was good/great. No wars. No COVID. And yet the deficits went from $400 billion to $1 trillion.
It is obviously not sound financial footing. Why would you think that's what I meant?
@Metal-Brain saidTrump Secretary of Defense Esper "he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well."
What did they each say about Trump that was so bad?
Obama Considers Firing Gen. Stanley McChrystal over Public Criticism of Administration’s Handling of Afghan War Effort
https://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/23/obama_considers_firing_gen_stanley_mcchrystal
Former Trump national security advisor McMaster "President Trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of partisan advantage and personal gain"
Former White house chief of staff Kelly.. "He did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’”
Former Attorney General Barr ‘Boy, if he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact with – he’s become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff,’
Former Defense Secretary Mattis: Trump is “the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution,”
Former Trump national security advisor Bolton "Trump is unfit to be President"
There are a dozen others.
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@wildgrass saidLet's start with Esper. When did he say that?
Trump Secretary of Defense Esper "he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well."
Former Trump national security advisor McMaster "President Trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of part ...[text shortened]... Trump national security advisor Bolton "Trump is unfit to be President"
There are a dozen others.
Not that Biden has not gotten criticism from his former chief of staff. Former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain gave Biden some crap too.
Am I supposed to believe that is uncommon?
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@Metal-Brain saidI'm not your personal Google search bar. Look it up!
Let's start with Esper. When did he say that?
Not that Biden has not gotten criticism from his former chief of staff. Former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain gave Biden some crap too.
Am I supposed to believe that is uncommon?
Yes it is uncommon for former cabinet members to say that they president under which they served is "unfit for office".
If it were one disgruntled trump employee, sure, this question whether his motive was genuine or vindictive. But when you have multiple high ranking cabinet members all saying "unfit for office" then it's foolish to think they're all wrong.
@wildgrass saidNo it isn't. You just think it is because you read a biased article.
I'm not your personal Google search bar. Look it up!
Yes it is uncommon for former cabinet members to say that they president under which they served is "unfit for office".
If it were one disgruntled trump employee, sure, this question whether his motive was genuine or vindictive. But when you have multiple high ranking cabinet members all saying "unfit for office" then it's foolish to think they're all wrong.
@Metal-Brain saidFind one other example. I tried. I can't.
No it isn't. You just think it is because you read a biased article.
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@Metal-Brain
Your conspiracy theory gets VERY weak when multiple sites come to the same conclusion.
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-former-donald-trump-officials-refusing-endorse-him-1882733
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/donald-trump-former-allies-what-matters/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/02/trump-aides-wont-vote-for-him/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-administration-endorsements-mike-pence-b2514445.html
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-trump-officials-are-among-the-most-vocal-opponents-of-returning-him-to-the-white-house
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/12/trumps-critics-former-white-house/73145245007/
They ALL agree and you cannot refute that.
That last is a former highly respected conservative judge who just announced he will not vote for Trump but will vote for Harris in spite of the fact he is a long time REPUBLICAN.
You are puking from the wrong tree.
@sonhouse saidWhat does that have to do with prices?
@Metal-Brain
Your conspiracy theory gets VERY weak when multiple sites come to the same conclusion.
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-former-donald-trump-officials-refusing-endorse-him-1882733
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/donald-trump-former-allies-what-matters/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/02/trump-aides-wont-vote-for-him/ ...[text shortened]... for Harris in spite of the fact he is a long time REPUBLICAN.
You are puking from the wrong tree.
@Metal-Brain
"Am I supposed to believe that is uncommon?"
Looks like you were not thinking about prices when the issue of Trump former associates now leaving him like rats leaving a sinking ship.
@sonhouse saidHow many left and what is the average of any POTUS?
@Metal-Brain
"Am I supposed to believe that is uncommon?"
Looks like you were not thinking about prices when the issue of Trump former associates now leaving him like rats leaving a sinking ship.
Any other rumors you care to parrot?
@Metal-Brain
I don't know, all I know is DOZENS of people who are very familiar with Trump has fled the ship. So show me the dozens of high office democrats dissing say Obama.
@sonhouse saidShow me the list
@Metal-Brain
I don't know, all I know is DOZENS of people who are very familiar with Trump has fled the ship. So show me the dozens of high office democrats dissing say Obama.