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Originally posted by yo its me
I'm saying you can't compare them. Deaths from car axcidents or choking are sad and are a different issue. It's like your saying that more childern die this way so that way is small in comparrison and not such a big deal- like saying 'childern die'.

It wouldn't be possiable to take all guns away from the citizens of the United States, and so this issue ...[text shortened]... states likes solving problems with violence and it's this attitude that needs to change.
I heard knife murders are soaring in London.

Violence is Human nature, not American.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
I heard knife murders are soaring in London.

Violence is Human nature, not American.

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Yes human nature, you're right, sorry.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Christ, you just fail to see the point, don't you?

Let me spell it out for you:
It's because of the large quantity of crime committed here where criminals are using firearms that I'm against ANYONE owning one.
Can you see what I'm saying or did you ride the short bus to school?


BTW, LOL @ guns are a proven safety device.
You just made my day by posting the most idiotic post in weeks on these forums.
Yes, your point is obvious. Its just so vacuous that I will not concede it.

And laugh all you want, but the study that Phlabibit linked to is quite solid in proving that guns PREVENT crimes all the time. Go back and look at it, especially the Peer Review link, where Marvin Wolfgang, a well know anti-gun guy, wrote the following.

"I am as strong a gun-control advocate as can be found among the criminologists in this country. If I were Mustapha Mond of Brave New World, I would eliminate all guns from the civilian population and maybe even from the police ... What troubles me is the article by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. ["Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun," by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, published in that same issue of The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology] The reason I am troubled is that they have provided an almost clear cut case of methodologically sound research in support of something I have theoretically opposed for years, namely, the use of a gun in defense against a criminal perpetrator. ...I have to admit my admiration for the care and caution expressed in this article and this research. Can it be true that about two million instances occur each year in which a gun was used as a defensive measure against crime? It is hard to believe. Yet, it is hard to challenge the data collected. We do not have contrary evidence. The National Crime Victim Survey does not directly contravene this latest survey, nor do the Mauser and Hart Studies. ... the methodological soundness of the current Kleck and Gertz study is clear. I cannot further debate it. ... The Kleck and Gertz study impresses me for the caution the authors exercise and the elaborate nuances they examine methodologically. I do not like their conclusions that having a gun can be useful, but I cannot fault their methodology. They have tried earnestly to meet all objections in advance and have done exceedingly well."

So, yes. Guns in the hands of law abiding people really do prevent violent crime, which, once again, is why violent crime has plummeted in the states in the last 20 years.

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Originally posted by yo its me
The idea that my childern might come accross guns at a freinds house is terrifying and I hope they never make freinds with such people!
But you can't be with them all the time.

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Gad what a horrible story that is.

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
LOL, yeah but what if he comes in with a gun? Look you simply can not assume that no one will have a gun just because the law says so.

The ratio of overall gun casualties is different yes, but the ratio to overall violent crime is different as well. As I have said before, violent crime has plummeted here in the US over the last 20 years since we start ...[text shortened]... v=C0vyxgJLJVA

But we're not going to agree. Its OK. Lets go back to telling lame jokes 🙂
lol yeah it was worth the debate though 😛
lame jokes woooo

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Guns are just cool, first thing I did when I turned 21 was buy a .45 auto and a complete set of reloading equipment. I wouldn't trust a man who pulled the whimpy "oooohhhh, they're bad and icky and I am sooooo sensitive" routine. Must be a real chick magnet.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Guns are just cool, first thing I did when I turned 21 was buy a .45 auto and a complete set of reloading equipment. I wouldn't trust a man who pulled the whimpy "oooohhhh, they're bad and icky and I am sooooo sensitive" routine. Must be a real chick magnet.
I guess it depends on what kind of women you're into.

You just look for the Skoal ring on the back pocket of her jeans?

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Originally posted by rbmorris
I guess it depends on what kind of women you're into.

You just look for the Skoal ring on the back pocket of her jeans?
Just talk about modern art, civil rights, or folk music and you're in like Flynn, eh? Women may say they like the artsy-fartsy wine and cheese type , but they generally are more attracted to a man that can bait a hook, skin a deer, or tune a carbuerator if the need arises. Knowing how to handle a firearm is part of that. Being a whimp is not a big turn-on for most women.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
...they generally are more attracted to a man that can bait a hook, skin a deer, or tune a carbuerator if the need arises. Knowing how to handle a firearm is part of that. Being a whimp is not a big turn-on for most women.
Being able to spell "carburetor", might land you a woman slightly higher on the evolutionary scale.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Just talk about modern art, civil rights, or folk music and you're in like Flynn, eh? Women may say they like the artsy-fartsy wine and cheese type , but they generally are more attracted to a man that can bait a hook, skin a deer, or tune a carbuerator if the need arises. Knowing how to handle a firearm is part of that. Being a whimp is not a big turn-on for most women.
Poor silly women. They can't possibly know their own minds better than some knuckle-dragger who can neatly fit them all into a pigeonhole no larger than a few sentences.

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Originally posted by rbmorris
Being able to spell "carburetor", might land you a woman slightly higher on the evolutionary scale.
Looks right to me:

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=carbuerator&FORM=MSNTDF

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before making asinine corrections that aren't right.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Looks right to me:

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=carbuerator&FORM=MSNTDF

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before making asinine corrections that aren't right.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carbuerator

P.S. I see you changed your original reply where you called me a metrosexual. Women love indecisive guys.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Just talk about modern art, civil rights, or folk music and you're in like Flynn, eh? Women may say they like the artsy-fartsy wine and cheese type , but they generally are more attracted to a man that can bait a hook, skin a deer, or tune a carbuerator if the need arises. Knowing how to handle a firearm is part of that. Being a whimp is not a big turn-on for most women.
Is that a worm or artificial fly?

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