Originally posted by @rajk999Romans1009 in recent months made a big thing about how Christians like him - who had already unilaterally declared themselves to be irreversibly "saved" - were not required to obey the ten commandments because believing that one was required to obey them was to misunderstand the 'New Covenant' and what Jesus' resurrection meant. None of the OSAS Christians here tackled him on this.
Nonsense. People like sonship [ and others], promote a doctrine contrary to the teachings of Christ. Some years ago this doctrine was simply implied or suggested but now they are becoming more and more brazen. The doctrine tells Christians not to bother with the commandments of Christ. Sonship stated that only Jesus can follow his commandments.
If Christ ...[text shortened]... is not mine.
Ok back to the other issue. Where did I say that Christians are not sons of God?
Originally posted by @fmfWho are the OSAS Christians?
Romans1009 in recent months made a big thing about how Christians like him - who had already unilaterally declared themselves to be irreversibly "saved" - were not required to obey the ten commandments because believing that one was required to obey them was to misunderstand the 'New Covenant' and what Jesus' resurrection meant. None of the OSAS Christians here tackled him on this.
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhere did I say that Christians are not sons of God?
You talk about church Christians all the time, I have no need to share with you the views
you have been expressing here for years. I see you avoided the rest of the conversation
not surprising.
Cant find it? Then why should I respond to Suzainne ?
Originally posted by @fmfI remember that. The truth is Christians are supposed to follow the commandments of Christ. Not the 10 commandments so that is really not an issue. Now sonship is getting more and more brazen by claiming nobody can follow the commandments of Christ.
Romans1009 in recent months made a big thing about how Christians like him - who had already unilaterally declared themselves to be irreversibly "saved" - were not required to obey the ten commandments because believing that one was required to obey them was to misunderstand the 'New Covenant' and what Jesus' resurrection meant. None of the OSAS Christians here tackled him on this.
Originally posted by @rajk999Sooo..............
I do not discuss what I do or what you do.
I discuss what you believe and what I believe.
You got that?
Mouth worship.
Yeah, I think we do 'get it'.
But didn't you say God prefers action, not words?
Yet all we get from you is words, not action.
Originally posted by @fmfSo everyone regardless of their views are OSAS because they didn't see fit to dispute
The Christians who didn't see fit to dispute the doctrine that Romans1009 propagated here, presumably. So not Rajk999 for example. Not Eladar. You weren't around. You'd have found common cause with Romans1009, I think, if you had been.
doctrine? That is a little unfair and not accurate isn't it?
Originally posted by @fmfWhy would they?
Romans1009 in recent months made a big thing about how Christians like him - who had already unilaterally declared themselves to be irreversibly "saved" - were not required to obey the ten commandments because believing that one was required to obey them was to misunderstand the 'New Covenant' and what Jesus' resurrection meant. None of the OSAS Christians here tackled him on this.
Clearly you misunderstand Christianity if you fail to understand why your efforts to divide up Christians always fall to naught.
Originally posted by @suzianneI asked him to explain what he thought the gospel was back when he claimed he once
Why would they?
Clearly you misunderstand Christianity if you fail to understand why your efforts to divide up Christians always fall to naught.
believed it. Some of his questions are strange for someone who should already know the
answers for.
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Originally posted by @suzianneGod prefers action but God wants you to do it shut up about it. You seem to think that its ok to continually talk about yourself here on this forum and boast of what you do. This is why Paul told women to shut up, because he knows that they are vain and like self praise. Jesus said .. Verily I say unto you, you have received your reward. (Matthew 6:2 ASV)
Sooo..............
Mouth worship.
Yeah, I think we do 'get it'.
But didn't you say God prefers action, not words?
Yet all we get from you is words, not action.
I am not interested in discussing people. I discuss doctrine.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayI am willing to listen to your answers anytime you change your mind. If you wanted to discuss my Christian beliefs with me you needed to encounter me 20 or 30 years ago when I was a Christian.
I asked him to explain what he thought the gospel was back when he claimed he once
believed it. Some of his questions are strange for someone who should already know the
answers for.
Originally posted by @fmfYea, like I said...with the things you question, I doubt that.
I am willing to listen to your answers anytime you change your mind. If you wanted to discuss my Christian beliefs with me you needed to encounter me 20 or 30 years ago when I was a Christian.