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  1. 09 Mar '13 21:27
    Well enough to get into a community college.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/

    Just curious about the demographics of those high school "graduates".

    Anyone see the connection?

    Must be the teechar's fault, right?
  2. 09 Mar '13 23:07 / 2 edits
    i wuz learned to read in publick scools and donte agreee. i red just fyn

    i hat rite wing nut jobz.
  3. 10 Mar '13 00:09
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    Well enough to get into a community college.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/

    Just curious about the demographics of those high school "graduates".

    Anyone see the connection?

    Must be the teechar's fault, right?
    This is nothing new. I went to a community college in suburban Detroit, in the mid '80s. At the same time I was coaching track in a school district where the College was located. A massive majority of kids entering didn't read at grade level at that time, and things are worse now, in those suburbs and worse yet in Detroit public schools.

    Math was even worse than reading. Most entering required a full year of remedial math, before they could handle freshman college math.
  4. 10 Mar '13 04:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    i wuz learned to read in publick scools and donte agreee. i red just fyn

    i hat rite wing nut jobz.
    I wint to kolij and they dint care bout reedin, ritein, and rithmetik, Jist more liberal brain washing like in hi sckewl.
  5. 10 Mar '13 06:12
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    Well enough to get into a community college.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/

    Just curious about the demographics of those high school "graduates".

    Anyone see the connection?

    Must be the teechar's fault, right?
    This is the result of multiculturalism, Democratic politics, welfare-state mentality, 70% Blacks born out-of-wedlock.....etc.....everything Obama and his ilk stand for....
  6. 10 Mar '13 06:14
    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    Russian Jews are smart...so are Yugoslavians...you're right about the others, however....
  7. 10 Mar '13 09:11 / 1 edit
    I graduated from a public high school speaking four languages and knowing a reasonable amount of precalculus and algebra (the level of math in Finland is much higher though - I was quite impressed with what they learn in high school here).

    Must have been the focus on guns and bibles.
  8. 10 Mar '13 18:21
    Multiculturalism has its price. If Finland is the model, then perhaps we should follow Finland's model and have schools of only one culture.
  9. 10 Mar '13 18:48
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Multiculturalism has its price. If Finland is the model, then perhaps we should follow Finland's model and have schools of only one culture.
    I didn't go to high school in Finland, but in Holland, which has been multicultural for hundreds of years.
  10. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    10 Mar '13 18:58
    I dropped out of HS because we were poor and I wanted to work to help the family so we could pay the rent.
  11. 10 Mar '13 19:52
    I taught a remedial math course for kids who did pass the entry exam for math in CUNY school. Lots of them had to take a similar class for English so I am familiar with the actual peopel in question.

    While I think the standards to get a high school diploma are shockingly low, the entry exam for a community college is often different than the exams they take in high school. This, in and of itself does not mean that a high school education is inadequate. It just means there is a different focus.

    Entry exams will ask topics/ difficulty levels that are simply not part of what a high school graduate who take the minimum number of classes would ever have seen before. This difference in expectation causes people not to do well even if they passed high school math. The math entry exam was on a computer and some kids did poorly because they never had practice with that format. Kids were not allowed to use a calculator on the entry exam while they were required to be proficient with a graphing calculator in high school. The overwhelming majority of high school kids had a few years in between graduation and taking the exam, so they did not do well because they had not done algebra in years.

    I imagine the community college writing entrance exam stresses things like format. I could see where someone could write sentence but get slammed .
  12. 10 Mar '13 20:02
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I didn't go to high school in Finland, but in Holland, which has been multicultural for hundreds of years.
    Yeah right, multicultural.
    Keep lying to yourself.
    It's not "multiculturalism" that's the reason for the failure of the current New York City education system. NYC was multicultural way back when America was just getting started .
    Let's see......
    What else could be the reason?
  13. 10 Mar '13 20:49
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I didn't go to high school in Finland, but in Holland, which has been multicultural for hundreds of years.
    Finland is better, adopt the better system.
  14. 10 Mar '13 21:11
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    Yeah right, multicultural.
    Keep lying to yourself.
    It's not "multiculturalism" that's the reason for the failure of the current New York City education system. NYC was multicultural way back when America was just getting started .
    Let's see......
    What else could be the reason?
    I'd beg to differ. Multiculturalism as defined by the leftists who have taken over the education system and the courts that is the root of the problem.
  15. 10 Mar '13 21:16
    Originally posted by Eladar
    I'd beg to differ. Multiculturalism as defined by the leftists who have taken over the education system and the courts that is the root of the problem.
    I agree......the leftists call it multiculturalism, when what they are pushing is multiracialism, which is the reason for the failure.