Originally posted by @sleepyguy
It's worse for women in other countries than here in the US. China, for example:
Rape in China is not widely discussed in the media. Luo Tsun-yin, a social psychologist at Shih Hsin University in Taiwan, asserts that fewer than one in 10 rape cases in China are reported.
The 2013 Multi-country Study on Men and Domestic Violence asked men in ...[text shortened]... 2% admitted to having committed gang rape.
First of all, this thread was *not* intended to be about rape but about sexist discrimination in dress codes.
I know that sexist men like to believe, however, that what women wear can provoke rape.
And that assumption seems to be a motive behind Sleepyguy's post.
Personally, I cannot understand why wearing a dress or skirt that's a bit 'too short' would
naturally provoke rape while it supposedly would be completely safe if it was a bit longer.
It seems to me that a rapist's not that finicky about choosing his victim on the basis of her hemline.
I also know that changing the subject to "It's supposedly worse over there" is a favorite
diversionary tactic of the right-wing. Many right-wing white Americans have liked to argue
that black Americans should not complain about racism or poverty in the USA because
most black Africans are worse off than they. So perhaps Sleepyguy believes that the USA
has no need to change its popular sexist attitudes or reduce its high incidence of rape.
If Sleepyguy wants to push his pet 'non-white men must be worse than white men
toward women' angle further, then he could cite sexual violence in South Africa:
"The rate of sexual violence in South Africa is among the highest in the world."
The issues (plural) about rape in China are complex, and some Chinese men and women
have given intense thought to them. They understand these issues better than Western
journalists who tend to resort to superficial, often sensationalistic, racist stereotypes.
Here's a British Library abstract of a PhD thesis by a Chinese (University of Edinburgh, 2005):
"Marital rape in China and the UK: problems in the current approach to culture and law "
"The thesis deals with approaches to the study of culture and law in the context of the
problem of marital rape in China. On the basis of the empirical research, serious legal
inconsistency can be found: while the legislation has actually criminalized marital rape,
most judges decriminalize marital rape actions. I argue that the problems are related to
the misunderstanding of the concept of culture and culture’s relationship with law, which
is in turn related to the current approach to culture and law studies. I suggest methodological
improvements here which better help in looking at problems and solutions in respect of
marital rape. The thesis is structured as follows. Chapter 1 reviews the literature in the
areas concerned. Chapter 2 provides empirical data on Chinese marital rape law, including
legislation, judicial practices and attitudes of different groups of people to martial rape.
Chapter 3 analyses that empirical data concluding that a new approach of memetics has
advantages over the current cultural approach. In Chapter 4, by briefly reviewing the
criminalization of marital rape in the UK, I try to demonstrate a wider validity for the memetic approach.
In the final chapter I argue for memetics as an approach both to the theoretical problems
in law and culture studies and also to the problems of Chinese marital rape law."
What does this mean? There are some dedicated Chinese men and women working hard to
educate people about rape and to change laws and practices to make it easier to oppose rape.
These Chinese may not have succeeded yet, but they evidently are making progress.
"China’s domestic violence victims could benefit from new legal protections.
Two contrasting Chinese wife-beating cases have provoked public outrage and led
to a proposed new law of protection and redress."
"China stands on the verge of passing a landmark new domestic violence law,
a victory decades in the making that owes much to the extraordinary, and very different,
stories of two battered women whose suffering helped prompt a national debate."
"Most surveys show that between 25% and 40% of women in China suffer domestic violence,
roughly in line with global norms and compared to around 25% in the United States.
But statistics in China are still patchy, and reporting rare: there is some evidence that
the proportion could be significantly higher, especially in rural areas."
"In March , in apparent response to the furore over Li Yan’s case, authorities
issued new guidelines to judges and police saying self-defence can apply in cases
where defendants are trying to prevent domestic violence. More generally, the stories
of Kim Lee and Li Yan have helped activists record what could be a landmark victory.
“China is not an easy country in which to be an activist on any issue, including gender issues,”
said Julie Brossard, who runs the UN Women office in China. “For them to get to this point
is actually a huge achievement."
"Change has been coming for a while. Domestic violence was first outlawed in the
marriage act of 2001, but it has not been regularly enforced.
The proposed new law gives victims of violence access to redress and protection,
including restraining orders, and it requires local governments to set up more shelters.
But it fails to outlaw marital rape, and it puts too much onus on the police to respond,
and not enough emphasis on health and social services, critics say."