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    28 Mar '18 06:09
    A kid gets suspended from school for drawing a hunter with a gun. Then he is treated like he was going to shoot up the school. Is the link below like the onion and purely satire?

    https://www.clintonnc.com/news/28735/drawing-leads-to-suspension
  2. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    28 Mar '18 09:02
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    https://www.clintonnc.com/news/28735/drawing-leads-to-suspension[/b]
    The website of the "Sampson Independent" catering to
    the almost 9,000 people of Clinton. North Carolina.
    (Probably read by a couple of thousand)

    I expect their journalism to be of the highest standard.
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    30 Mar '18 00:08
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    The website of the "Sampson Independent" catering to
    the almost 9,000 people of Clinton. North Carolina.
    (Probably read by a couple of thousand)

    I expect their journalism to be of the highest standard.
    Quite an over-reaction isn't it?
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    30 Mar '18 00:24
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    A kid gets suspended from school for drawing a hunter with a gun. Then he is treated like he was going to shoot up the school. Is the link below like the onion and purely satire?

    https://www.clintonnc.com/news/28735/drawing-leads-to-suspension
    It is an over reaction.

    But, only a few weeks ago, a child about the same age shot himself in the head while at school, who initially intended to shot others.

    Now keep in mind that there's been 17 school shooting in only 12 weeks since the year started.

    The Parkland shooting has been a very high-profile and well-covered event, spawning many protests, public debates, and a movement of student activism and demonstrations, including speaking lawmakers directly.
    There's been NINE school shootings since Parkland.

    So while it may be an overreaction, just be mindful the insane circumstances just this year alone---in addition to previous school shootings like Sandy Hook---that lead to this reaction.
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    30 Mar '18 00:29
    Originally posted by @vivify
    It is an over reaction.

    But, only a few weeks ago, a child about the same age shot himself in the head while at school, who initially intended to shot others.

    Now keep in mind that there's been 17 school shooting in only 12 weeks since the year started.

    The Parkland shooting has been a very high-profile and well-covered event, spawning many prot ...[text shortened]... r alone---in addition to previous school shootings like Sandy Hook---that lead to this reaction.
    That cluster of shootings is because of the corporate news media giving the shooting more coverage than justified.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mass-shootings-are-contagious/

    Blame the corporate news media.
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    30 Mar '18 01:29
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    That cluster of shootings is because of the corporate news media giving the shooting more coverage than justified.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mass-shootings-are-contagious/

    Blame the corporate news media.
    When it comes to *mass* shootings, perhaps. But most of the school that happened this year weren't mass shootings. Some were a result of disputes or fights, a few happened during a school party, and a few happened inside a school dormitory.

    Most of those shooters had specific targets and didn't intend to go on a killing spree. In fact, one such student walked into a cafeteria, shot a girl, and then walked out, being arrested with no further incident.

    Most of the 2018 school shootings weren't from fame-seeking copycats. Check for yourself:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html
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    30 Mar '18 02:16
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    That cluster of shootings is because of the corporate news media giving the shooting more coverage than justified.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mass-shootings-are-contagious/

    Blame the corporate news media.
    If you really believe that, then you must be one of the most gullible fools on this site.

    The shootings are the direct result of an out-of-control gun culture in the US, promoted by the National Rifle Association and those they pay to get into office to be their puppets.
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    30 Mar '18 04:00
    Originally posted by @vivify
    When it comes to *mass* shootings, perhaps. But most of the school that happened this year weren't mass shootings. Some were a result of disputes or fights, a few happened during a school party, and a few happened inside a school dormitory.

    Most of those shooters had specific targets and didn't intend to go on a killing spree. In fact, one such student w ...[text shortened]... k for yourself:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html
    I said shootings, not mass shootings. They all involve guns so your distinction is without a difference. The more news coverage of shootings results in more shootings and since mass shootings get more news coverage that results in gun related shootings. How many people that are killed isn't important to my point. Guns are used and they are inspired by the intense news coverage. I live in Michigan and heard about the CMU shooting where my brother went to college. That happened after Cruz had his face posted all over the news. They didn't have to put his face on TV as much as they did but gave him the fame anyway. He doesn't deserve the fame he was given, but the news media had their own ideas.

    My point is completely valid.
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    30 Mar '18 04:03
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    If you really believe that, then you must be one of the most gullible fools on this site.

    The shootings are the direct result of an out-of-control gun culture in the US, promoted by the National Rifle Association and those they pay to get into office to be their puppets.
    If you want to deny factual information you are the fool. Intense news coverage of shootings results in more shootings. If you think you can prove me wrong knock yourself out trying. You will fail.
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    30 Mar '18 05:15
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    If you want to deny factual information you are the fool. Intense news coverage of shootings results in more shootings. If you think you can prove me wrong knock yourself out trying. You will fail.
    Right-wingers offering factual information is as much a contradiction in terminis as what they’re saying is a tautology.
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    30 Mar '18 09:26
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    That cluster of shootings is because of the corporate news media giving the shooting more coverage than justified.
    Is it really a cluster when it's been happening, on and off, for decades? That's no longer a cluster, it's a trend. Blaming it on media coverage is disingenuous, and wilfully ignores the very real difference between the USA and other Western countries.
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    30 Mar '18 11:00
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    I said shootings, not mass shootings. They all involve guns so your distinction is without a difference. The more news coverage of shootings results in more shootings and since mass shootings get more news coverage that results in gun related shootings. How many people that are killed isn't important to my point. Guns are used and they are inspired by t ...[text shortened]... the fame he was given, but the news media had their own ideas.

    My point is completely valid.
    When most shootings have nothing to do with trying to be famous, like the ones in the link I showed you for this year, you're not making any point whatsoever.

    This seems to be a "blame the media not the guns" tactic that's been recently cooked up by right-wingers.
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    30 Mar '18 13:55
    Originally posted by @shallow-blue
    Is it really a cluster when it's been happening, on and off, for decades? That's no longer a cluster, it's a trend. Blaming it on media coverage is disingenuous, and wilfully ignores the very real difference between the USA and other Western countries.
    But just remember, trend or no trend, the right to bear arms, and the relative freedom to acquire firearms, has nothing to do with those predisposed to gun violence, to act out their murderous fantasies, and feel omnipotent for a day. Allegedly.
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    30 Mar '18 14:45
    Originally posted by @vivify
    It is an over reaction.

    But, only a few weeks ago, a child about the same age shot himself in the head while at school, who initially intended to shot others.

    Now keep in mind that there's been 17 school shooting in only 12 weeks since the year started.

    The Parkland shooting has been a very high-profile and well-covered event, spawning many prot ...[text shortened]... r alone---in addition to previous school shootings like Sandy Hook---that lead to this reaction.
    Must have sold a lot more guns this year, right?
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    30 Mar '18 17:12
    Originally posted by @vivify
    When it comes to *mass* shootings, perhaps. But most of the school that happened this year weren't mass shootings. Some were a result of disputes or fights, a few happened during a school party, and a few happened inside a school dormitory.

    Most of those shooters had specific targets and didn't intend to go on a killing spree. In fact, one such student w ...[text shortened]... k for yourself:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html
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