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  1. 24 Sep '10 01:23
    saw this on a bumper sticker today.

    are the liberals mad at Obama or something?

    unfortunately i was not close enough to see the rest of the bumper stickers on the car.
  2. 24 Sep '10 01:24
    or maybe it was a conservative mad at Bush. but i doubt it. not as immediate.
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    24 Sep '10 01:30
    Isn't it basically the Tea Party take on things?
  4. 24 Sep '10 01:42
    well, googling for it, i see a Jan 2009 article by Condi Rice's speechwriter on how Obama will adopt a conservative GWB kind of foreign policy and it will be a good thing.

    but then in Jan 2010 some articles popped up in Village Voice on how Obama turned out to be a GW Bush clone.

    at least that's what the Google clips for the articles indicate.


    George W. Obama - Page 1 - Columns - New York - Village Voice
    Jan 12, 2010 ... Before President Obama, it was grimly accurate to write, as I often did in the Voice, that George W. Bush came into the presidency with no ...
    www.villagevoice.com/2010-01-12/columns/george-w-obama/

    The Making of George W. Obama - By Christian Brose | Foreign Policy
    Jan 5, 2009 ... The Making of George W. Obama. The 2008 U.S. election was all about change. But that's not what we're going to get on foreign policy, ...
    www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/.../the_making_of_george_w_obama

    Parallels Between Obama and Bush - washingtonpost.com
    Mar 8, 2009 ... Most Americans are eager to forget about George W. Bush. But just over seven years ago, ... Obama Should Heed the Advice of George H.W. Bush ...

    George W. Obama: After his first year, Obama shows his true face
    Jan 13, 2010 ... Village Voice | Bush's successor—who actually taught constitutional law—is continuing much of the Bush-Cheney parallel government and, ...

    George W. Obama - HUMAN EVENTS
    Jan 6, 2009 ... Foreign Policy magazine titled its debut issue, 'The Making of George W. Obama'...
    www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30151 -

    George W. Obama? - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
    George W. Obama? 19 Jan 2009 05:26 pm. Chris Brose, writing for Foreign Policy: ... there will be little change on issues of global grand strategy. ...
    andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/.../george-w-obama.html
  5. 24 Sep '10 01:43
    so i'm going for the liberal-slant theory. maybe the VV can't afford to pay their writers enough to come up with original headlines.
  6. 24 Sep '10 09:48
    The far left (basically the entire Democrat party) is extremely angry at Obama, both because of things he's done and because of things he's not done.

    Club Gitmo is still up and running. Obama talked a big game about closing it (which would be a huge mistake), and even signed an executive order on his first full day in office stating that Gitmo would be closed no later than one year from that date (which would mean closing it by January of 2010). He's not even close to actually doing that... like everything else, it was just big talk from the little guy.

    The commander in chief can't seem to do anything about "don't ask don't tell"

    He's sending more troops to Afghanistan, although we now officially know that it's not being done in order to try and win there (most of us knew he wasn't interested in victory even before Woodward's book).

    Obama is even losing Chris Matthews on a lot of things. In reality of course, the entire lamestream media knows that Obama is and never has been anything more than an empty suit. Even they have to be tired of trying to come up with ways to defend his record, especially on the economy. Obama promised all of us that unemployment wouldn't exceed 8% if we let the little baby have his bottle. We did, and unemployment has not seen the south side of 8% since. And unemployment is actually far worse than the announced figures of 9.5 or 9.6%, because recent college graduates who can't find jobs are not counted among the unemployed (because they weren't working before).

    I'm black myself, and grew up in a Democrat household, but blacks aren't happy with him either. I was all for a black person becoming President, it's just that I knew that THIS wasn't the guy. Much of my family looked at me as a bit of a traitor (even though I've been Republican for a long time), but now they see that I knew what I was talking about when it came to Obama. They all bought into the hype. And it's never been more difficult in most of our lifetimes for blacks to find decent jobs, just as it's never been more difficult for whites to find decent jobs. A hear and a half into Obama's term, one in seven Americans are living below what is considered the poverty level. Obama's economic team is jumping ship, they see what's coming if nothing "changes". Three of his top four economic advisors have decided they've got better things to do.

    But most likely, the "George W Obama" bumper sticker is probably a reference to the fact that we're still in Afghanistan, and Gitmo is still open. The left doesn't care so much about the economic destruction, they just want their guys in charge of it.
  7. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    24 Sep '10 09:58
    Originally posted by TheBloop
    I'm black myself, and grew up in a Democrat household, but blacks aren't happy with him either. I was all for a black person becoming President, it's just that I knew that THIS wasn't the guy. Much of my family looked at me as a bit of a traitor (even though I've been Republican for a long time), but now they see that I knew what I was talking about when it came to Obama.
    I don't think you are black, actually. I am faily sure TheBloop is one of Sam The Sham's several IDs. You don't play much chess but you do crop up when Sam The Sham is banned from the forum.
  8. 24 Sep '10 17:38
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    or maybe it was a conservative mad at Bush. but i doubt it. not as immediate.
    Why? I've been saying this for a very long time. In fact, where can I get me one of those there bumper stickers?

    Bush was rejected because he was a spend thrift, he inacted huge entitlements, used bail outs and TARP money to handle the credit crisis, reisided over a failing economy, and continued wars abroad.

    What the #### has changed?
  9. 24 Sep '10 23:13
    Originally posted by TheBloop
    The far left (basically the entire Democrat party) is extremely angry at Obama, both because of things he's done and because of things he's not done.

    Club Gitmo is still up and running. Obama talked a big game about closing it (which would be a huge mistake), and even signed an executive order on his first full day in office stating that Gitmo would be ...[text shortened]... economic destruction, they just want their guys in charge of it.
    there are a lot of anti-war bumper stickers in this area.
  10. 24 Sep '10 23:14
    Originally posted by FMF
    I don't think you are black, actually. I am faily sure TheBloop is one of Sam The Sham's several IDs. You don't play much chess but you do crop up when Sam The Sham is banned from the forum.
    run a lexicographical analysis and let us know how it turns out.
  11. 24 Sep '10 23:50
    the disappointed are showing up on TV

    obama's no-good, very bad week:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100924/el_yblog_upshot/obamas-no-good-very-bad-week
  12. 25 Sep '10 00:30
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    saw this on a bumper sticker today.

    are the liberals mad at Obama or something?

    unfortunately i was not close enough to see the rest of the bumper stickers on the car.
    Obama's a moderate which actually creates some hilarity.

    Ultra liberals get pissed because he goes after terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the Republicans get pissed because... well... he has a (D) next to his name.

    So the Republican talking heads - the Limbaughs, Becks, Hannitys and zeeblebots of the world call him a Liberal extremist, Socialist, Communist, and Marxist (as if they can all be true at the same time). And a few far left Liberal bloggers say he's "like Bush" because he's not a pacifist.
  13. 25 Sep '10 02:56 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Obama's a moderate which actually creates some hilarity.

    Ultra liberals get pissed because he goes after terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the Republicans get pissed because... well... he has a (D) next to his name.

    So the Republican talking heads - the Limbaughs, Becks, Hannitys and zeeblebots of the world call him a Liberal extr ...[text shortened]... ime). And a few far left Liberal bloggers say he's "like Bush" because he's not a pacifist.
    Nope, "W" is a liberal.

    As for this conservative, I'm still pissed that he is in Afghanistan as well. What is there left to do that has not already been done? Of course, since they are both statists it should be no surprise that Obama is still trying to police the world like "W" did. In the interim he can bail out and spend like "W" did with massive entitlements to boot and hope he has a different outcome in 2012 I suppose.

    It is hard to seperate Obama and "W" isn't it? I mean, they do pretty much the same stuff.
  14. 25 Sep '10 03:15
    Originally posted by whodey
    Nope, "W" is a liberal.

    As for this conservative, I'm still pissed that he is in Afghanistan as well. What is there left to do that has not already been done? Of course, since they are both statists it should be no surprise that Obama is still trying to police the world like "W" did. In the interim he can bail out and spend like "W" did with massive ent ...[text shortened]... hard to seperate Obama and "W" isn't it? I mean, they do pretty much the same stuff.
    Actually they're worlds apart.

    But if your only measuring stick for being the "same" is that neither buy into your fictional "free market" utopia where there's no government regulation then ALL world leaders are just like George W. Bush.
  15. 25 Sep '10 03:23
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Actually they're worlds apart.

    But if your only measuring stick for being the "same" is that neither buy into your fictional "free market" utopia where there's no government regulation then ALL world leaders are just like George W. Bush.
    So to favor limited government means to favor no government?

    Why are we continually fed such strawmen? Answer: Because it is their only defense.