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  1. Standard memberRemoved
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    25 Jan '17 16:21
    Here is a story that should strike terror into top level Democrats. President Trump just held a high level meeting, and one of the participants came out gushing about finally meeting a politician who really intends to keep his campaign promises:

    “We just had probably the most incredible meeting of our careers with (President Donald J. Trump). He intends to do the work on the issues he discussed on the campaign trail. It was by far the best meeting I’ve had (in Washington). We believe that President Trump really is going to put America first. I’ve been around this town long enough to know things are said in the heat of battle. The details we just heard from the President, we’re very excited about.”

    Coming from anyone, that would be bad news enough for Democratic leaders, but here’s the part that will have them reaching for their smelling salts and martini pitchers: That quote was from Building Trade Union head Sean McGarvey. Trump was meeting with the heads of a number of big labor unions, traditionally among the most reliable supporters/donors/voter wranglers for the donkey party, about his promise to return manufacturing jobs to the US.

    A number of people said this before the election, but it bears repeating now: The left attacked Trump as a liar, but they really weren’t scared that he was lying about “making America great again.” They’re terrified that he really meant it and will actually do it.

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
  2. Standard membervivify
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    25 Jan '17 16:52
    I hope Trump succeeds in making America great. Let's hope he's successful.
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    25 Jan '17 17:182 edits
    Originally posted by vivify
    I hope Trump succeeds in making America great. Let's hope he's successful.
    Indeed. People only care about their bottom line.

    It's a pity Americans don't care more about their own freedom and Constitutional law that defends such freedoms
  4. Standard membervivify
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    25 Jan '17 17:234 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Indeed. People only care about their bottom line.

    It's a pity Americans don't care more about their own freedom and Constitutional law that defends such freedoms
    Like Gitmo and Due Process?

    I hope Trump thinks about Constitutional law before banning people on the basis of religion.
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    25 Jan '17 17:271 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    Like Gitmo and Due Process?
    The list is much longer than that.

    The Patriot Act? The NDAA which allows the government to arrest its own citizens without due process, etc..etc. etc.

    Neither party really gives a damn, despite their demagoguery to the contrary.

    No matter, so long as more than half the country have jobs and food on the table it will be just fine! 😵
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    25 Jan '17 20:39
    Originally posted by vivify
    Like Gitmo and Due Process?

    I hope Trump thinks about Constitutional law before banning people on the basis of religion.
    We all know foreigners have Constitutional rights!
  7. Standard membervivify
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    25 Jan '17 21:084 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    We all know foreigners have Constitutional rights!
    https://www.aclu.org/other/rights-immigrants-aclu-position-paper

    It is true that the Constitution does not give foreigners the right to enter the U.S. But once here, it protects them from discrimination based on race and national origin and from arbitrary treatment by the government.

    Yes. "We all know" that.
  8. Standard membervivify
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    25 Jan '17 21:26
    More reading for Eladar:



    http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/edumat/studyguides/noncitizens.html

    In 1985, the United Nations proclaimed the Declaration on the Human Rights of Individuals Who are not Nationals of the Country in which They Live. The Declaration was designed to ensure that the fundamental human rights provided in the International Covenants on Human Rights would also be guaranteed to non-citizens. The Covenants are legally binding documents, which require each state that has ratified them to protect certain human rights for all individuals within its territory and subject to its jurisdiction. The Declaration serves as a guide for states as they design and implement laws to protect human rights.

    Articles 5 – 10 of the Declaration on the Human Rights of Individuals Who are not Nationals of the Country in which They Live sets out the rights of non-citizens (referred to as “aliens” in the Declaration):

    • Aliens must receive the same treatment as nationals of the country in which they live with regard to the following rights:

    The right to life and security of the person, including freedom from arbitrary arrest or detention

    Protection against arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy, family, home or correspondence

    Equality before the courts, including the free assistance of an interpreter

    The right to choose a spouse, to marry, and to found a family

    Freedom of thought, opinion, conscience and religion

    The right to retain language, culture and tradition
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    25 Jan '17 22:041 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Here is a story that should strike terror into top level Democrats. President Trump just held a high level meeting, and one of the participants came out gushing about finally meeting a politician who really intends to keep his campaign promises:

    “We just had probably the most incredible meeting of our careers with (President Donald J. Trump). He inten ...[text shortened]... hey’re terrified that he really meant it and will actually do it.

    Sincerely,

    Mike Huckabee
    Oh yeah, I'm terrified, and so are my 2 Democratic Senators. We didn't get more than 9 - 10 hours of sleep, worrying about that last night. 😴
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    25 Jan '17 22:11
    Trump is not only keeping jobs in the US, he has now got the unions on his side.

    Bernie Sanders and the unions are praising Trump for pulling out of NAFTA?

    Has the world gone mad?
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