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  1. 01 Oct '14 03:26 / 1 edit
    I've had it with people stereotyping conservatives as people who are racist, misogynist, stupid, and greedy. This mind set has been perpetuated by the press and society at large. This arrogant air of self righteous superiority can only be compared to that of Hitler's master race.

    There, I said it. Take that Godwin!!
  2. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    01 Oct '14 03:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    I've had it with people stereotyping conservatives as people who are racist, misogynist, stupid, and greedy. This mind set has been perpetuated by the press and society at large. This arrogant air of self righteous superiority can only be compared to that of Hitler's master race.

    There, I said it. Take that Godwin!!
    You can skirt Godwins law by calling them little hitlers. Hitler had something going on upstairs plus the control freak disorder that we see around here often enough, the little hitlers only have the control freak delusion.
  3. 01 Oct '14 03:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    You can skirt Godwins law by calling them little hitlers. Hitler had something going on upstairs plus the control freak disorder that we see around here often enough, the little hitlers only have the control freak delusion.
    They say that history repeats itself. However, men like Godwin forbids that we ever observe this again.
  4. 01 Oct '14 08:56
    Originally posted by whodey
    I've had it with people stereotyping conservatives as people who are racist, misogynist, stupid, and greedy. This mind set has been perpetuated by the press and society at large. This arrogant air of self righteous superiority can only be compared to that of Hitler's master race.

    There, I said it. Take that Godwin!!
    argumentum ad hitlerum


    this one is particularly stupid, even for a logical fallacy
  5. 01 Oct '14 10:48
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    argumentum ad hitlerum


    this one is particularly stupid, even for a logical fallacy
    Oh look, another brown shirt with the source of all truthiness.
  6. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    01 Oct '14 10:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    I've had it with people stereotyping conservatives as people who are racist, misogynist, stupid, and greedy. This mind set has been perpetuated by the press and society at large. This arrogant air of self righteous superiority can only be compared to that of Hitler's master race.

    There, I said it. Take that Godwin!!
    But conservatives are racist, misogynist, stupid and greedy. So was Hitler; he was a conservative.

    What's your beef man? Join the KKK or something.
  7. 01 Oct '14 11:02
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    But conservatives are racist, misogynist, stupid and greedy. So was Hitler; he was a conservative.

    What's your beef man? Join the KKK or something.
    That depends on your definition of conservative.

    If your definition of conservative is embracing a centralized government that has absolute power that mandates socialism and persecutes Jews and Zionists and starts wars across the globe, then yes, he was a conservative.

    Funny thing, what the US has in power now sounds a lot like Hitler and conservatives seem to hate it.
  8. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    01 Oct '14 13:39
    Originally posted by whodey
    I've had it with people stereotyping conservatives as people who are racist, misogynist, stupid, and greedy. This mind set has been perpetuated by the press and society at large. This arrogant air of self righteous superiority can only be compared to that of Hitler's master race.

    There, I said it. Take that Godwin!!
    Yes, we know...as usual it's always the Liberal's fault!
  9. 01 Oct '14 13:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by bill718
    Yes, we know...as usual it's always the Liberal's fault!
    Actually Hitler was praised by socialists like Maynard Keynes. Keynes said that Hitler proved his economic theories before they actually were printed.

    He also noted that his economic theories worked best in totalitarian regimes and stated that the freer the economy the worse his theories would fare. This, of course, all happened before the outbreak of war.

    Hitler spent so much so fast, he forbade the German government from coming out with a budget so as not to arouse concern among German voters.

    Sound familiar?
  10. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    01 Oct '14 13:49
    Originally posted by whodey
    That depends on your definition of conservative.

    If your definition of conservative is embracing a centralized government that has absolute power that mandates socialism and persecutes Jews and Zionists and starts wars across the globe, then yes, he was a conservative.

    Funny thing, what the US has in power now sounds a lot like Hitler and conservatives seem to hate it.
    I seriously don't think Hitler mandated socialism.
    In fact, I can refer you to various speaches by him and his conservative cronies in which they demand the extermination of communism and communists.

    Much like that fat slug, what's his name? Rush Limbaugh... that's him.
  11. 01 Oct '14 13:54 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I seriously don't think Hitler mandated socialism.
    In fact, I can refer you to various speaches by him and his conservative cronies in which they demand the extermination of communism and communists.

    Much like that fat slug, what's his name? Rush Limbaugh... that's him.
    What does NAZI stand for Shav?

    I'll give you a hint, the word conservative is no where in the definition.

    Hitler banned guns, passed some of the first ground breaking legislation protecting the environment and animals, mandated that the average German have free access to medical care, education, jobs, etc., and taxed the top 4% heavily with the greatest progressive tax policy in world history.

    The Jews were merely a source of money. They were affluent and people coveted them as a result, which made villifying them easy. Just take their money and kill'em! I see this with progressive policies regarding abortion. Just kill the unborn so they don't take all your money and time away.

    The only think Hitler did not do was take over industry. He asked the questin, "Why nationalize industry when you can natioanalize the populace?"

    Make no mistake, Hitler told industry what to do, but knew that they ran things much better than he ever could.
  12. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    01 Oct '14 14:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    What does NAZI stand for Shav?.
    There's a massive difference between national socialism and socialim.

    In fact, on many points, they're complete opposites.
    I think you should look at it like this: "Just because Hitler says he's not going to invade France, doesn't mean he's not going to invade France."
  13. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    01 Oct '14 14:20
    Originally posted by whodey

    Hitler banned guns, passed some of the first ground breaking legislation protecting the environment and animals, mandated that the average German have free access to medical care, education, jobs, etc., and taxed the top 4% heavily with the greatest progressive tax policy in world history.
    All fine and dandy.
    However, what's the basis upon which communism / socialism works?

    The number one rule?

    The people who produce have control over production and distribution.

    See where the whole equation sort of goes astray?
  14. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    01 Oct '14 15:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    What does NAZI stand for Shav?

    I'll give you a hint, the word conservative is no where in the definition.

    Hitler banned guns, passed some of the first ground breaking legislation protecting the environment and animals, mandated that the average German have free access to medical care, education, jobs, etc., and taxed the top 4% heavily with the greatest ...[text shortened]... , Hitler told industry what to do, but knew that they ran things much better than he ever could.
    Hitler was authoritarian in the extreme. Economically, he was probably somewhere in the middle. He certainly didn't believe in state ownership of production, but he did believe that the market must be subservient to the interests of the state.

    There were elements of the Nazi party that truly did believe in economic Socialism, most notably Goebbles, Strasser and Rohm. Most of that element of the party was liquidated in the Rohm purge. The ones who did survive, like Goebbles, dropped their socialist agenda.

    Hitler used populism as a means to an end. He was also perfectly okay supporting the industrialists' profits when they could be co-opted to his cause.

    Personally, I don't think Hitler gave a damn about the workers or the corporations. They were both useful only insofar as they could be used to further his ends.

    In a major sop to whodey, if I were to describe Hitler's political position in one word, I'd call him a Statist.
  15. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    01 Oct '14 15:13
    Originally posted by sh76
    ... I were to describe Hitler's political position in one word, I'd call him a Statist.
    Hitler to Obama in just 15 posts!