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  1. Standard memberRemoved
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    24 Jan '17 13:54
    Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards is on record stating her business is essential to American women because of the prenatal care it offers.

    She is emphasizing that point as a move develops in Congress to withhold the half-a-billion taxpayer dollars that each year goes to the abortion-industry behemoth.

    The funding must continue, Richards said, because prenatal care is among “the kinds of services that folks depend on Planned Parenthood for.”

    The problem?

    Planned Parenthood “offers abortions, so they don’t offer prenatal care,” according to a Tempe, Arizona, spokeswoman for the business.

    That’s right. The service Planned Parenthood says is so important, it doesn’t provide.
    “Planned Parenthood says it’s a champion of women’s health care, yet prenatal care, which is an essential service for expectant mothers, is virtually nonexistent,” said Lila Rose, president and founder of Live Action. “Our investigators who wanted to keep their babies were turned away by 92 out of 97 Planned Parenthood centers. It’s clear that despite its claims, abortion is the priority and the only option for pregnant women that visit Planned Parenthood.”

    Live Action said it is investing $500,000 in a digital ad campaign to push the video series out to millions of Americans. Future videos will further expose Planned Parenthood’s lack of health care services and include the testimonies of former Planned Parenthood managers.

    President Trump already took the first step on the issue on Monday, ordering that U.S. tax money no longer will go to those organizations who fund abortion internationally.



    http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/planned-parenthood-we-dont-do-prenatal-services/
  2. Unknown Territories
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    24 Jan '17 14:00
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards is on record stating her business is essential to American women because of the prenatal care it offers.

    She is emphasizing that point as a move develops in Congress to withhold the half-a-billion taxpayer dollars that each year goes to the abortion-industry behemoth.

    The funding must continue, Richards ...[text shortened]... ernationally.



    http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/planned-parenthood-we-dont-do-prenatal-services/
    Same on their claimed early cancer detection program: non-existent.
    They should change their name to "Last Chance Birth Control," if they want to really describe what they're all about.
  3. Subscriberno1marauder
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    24 Jan '17 15:13
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards is on record stating her business is essential to American women because of the prenatal care it offers.

    She is emphasizing that point as a move develops in Congress to withhold the half-a-billion taxpayer dollars that each year goes to the abortion-industry behemoth.

    The funding must continue, Richards ...[text shortened]... ernationally.



    http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/planned-parenthood-we-dont-do-prenatal-services/
    Fake news from the usual right wing sources. Simply Google "Pre-natal Care at Planned Parenthood" and you'll get links to many local PP groups that offer pre-natal care at their clinics or referrals to other providers. For example:

    You may be eligible for FREE prenatal care through the Medicaid for Pregnant Women program offered at PPHP medical centers........

    The PPHP medical centers listed below offer Prenatal Care: Huntington Patchogue Smithtown New Rochelle White Plains Yonkers

    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-hudson-peconic/patient-resources/prenatal-care

    Or:

    A successful pregnancy means getting prenatal care as early as possible. Planned Parenthood of Orange and San Bernardino Counties can help.

    Here are some of our prenatal services:

    https://plannedparenthoodosbc.org/services/prenatal.asp

    Or:

    There’s also prenatal care, which many people don’t realize is available through some Planned Parenthood affiliates, including Michigan. Prenatal care is vitally important to protect a woman’s health and prevent birth defects in the baby. This service is available at Planned Parenthood health centers in Ann Arbor and Detroit, with hopes to expand to other locations in Michigan.

    http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/07/how-defunding-planned-parenthood-would-put-health-and-lives-at-risk.html

    Etc. etc. etc.

    Of course, Richards said only that prenatal services was one of the services provided by PP, not that funding should continue solely because of pre-natal services as the OP misleadingly claims. PP provides all kinds of other useful services like STD and pregnancy testing, contraception, testicular and prostrate screening for men, cervical and breast cancer screenings and testing for urinary track infections and other conditions for women, etc. etc. etc.
  4. Cape Town
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    24 Jan '17 15:25
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    That’s right. The service Planned Parenthood says is so important, it doesn’t provide.
    No, it is a not 'right' it is a blatant lie. You are guilty of spreading blatant lies.
    I know you are not exactly bright, but I am fairly sure you knew this was a lie before you posted it. I don't live in the US and have never visited planned parenthood, but I know that it is a lie. You are getting old and live in the US and you didn't know this? And you didn't bother to do a quick Google to see if it was true? You knew it was a lie but posted it anyway.
  5. Standard membershavixmir
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    24 Jan '17 15:29
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards is on record stating her business is essential to American women because of the prenatal care it offers.

    She is emphasizing that point as a move develops in Congress to withhold the half-a-billion taxpayer dollars that each year goes to the abortion-industry behemoth.

    The funding must continue, Richards ...[text shortened]... ernationally.



    http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/planned-parenthood-we-dont-do-prenatal-services/
    Oh dear.
    Looks like you've been ripped a new one. Again.

    Stick to moon landings or something, please.
  6. Germany
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    24 Jan '17 15:32
    Definitely saw some prenatal care behind the grassy knoll.
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    24 Jan '17 17:131 edit
    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/24/liveaction-investigation-planned-parenthood-pre-natal-care-virtually-non-existent/

    Here we go again, the fake news claim. I suppose you believe what you want.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-new-undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-turning-away-women-s
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    24 Jan '17 17:42
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/24/liveaction-investigation-planned-parenthood-pre-natal-care-virtually-non-existent/

    Here we go again, the fake news claim. I suppose you believe what you want.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-new-undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-turning-away-women-s
    10 Shocking Quotes from Planned Parenthood’s Senior Director of Medical Services That Didn’t Make the Video

    https://www.care-net.org/abundant-life-blog/10-shocking-quotes-from-planned-parenthoods-senior-director-of-medical-services-that-didnt-make-the-video
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    24 Jan '17 17:551 edit
    Abby Johnson: ProWoman, ProChild, ProLife

    Once again...
    Planned Parenthood does NOT provide:
    -Mammograms
    -Prenatal Care
    -Breast Biopsies
    -Breast Cancer Diagnostic Care
    -Primary Health Care
    -Diabetes Treatment
    -Treatment for Elevated Cholesterol
    -Treatment for Elevated Blood Pressure
    -Holistic Medicine
    -Obstetrical Care
    -Pediatric Care
    -Care for HIV Positive Individuals
    -Infertility Treatments
    -Natural Family Planning Instruction
    -Care for Uterine Fibroids
    -Treatment for Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome
    -Adoption Placement
    -Prostate Exams
    -Uterine Laser Ablation
    -Cervical Laser Ablation
    -Miscarriage Management
    -Bladder Disorders and Urinary Problems
    -Prolapsed Pelvic Floor Concerns
    -Laparoscopic Procedures
    -Hysterectomy
    -Treatment of Endometriosis
    -Polyp Removal
    -Endometrial Ablation
    -BRCA Testing
    -Bone Density Testing
    -Treatment of Pelvic Pain
    -Treatment of Vulvar Pain
    -Molar Pregnancy Follow Up

    Planned Parenthood DOES provide:
    -First and Second Trimester Abortions
    -Limited STD testing and treatment
    -Pap Smears for Women in Child Bearing Years
    -Limited Contraceptive Methods

    Just wanted to put some of the myths to rest.

    Abby Johnson: Planned Parenthood Director turned pro-LIFE advocate
  10. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Jan '17 18:30
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Abby Johnson: ProWoman, ProChild, ProLife

    Once again...
    Planned Parenthood does NOT provide:
    -Mammograms
    -Prenatal Care
    -Breast Biopsies
    -Breast Cancer Diagnostic Care
    -Primary Health Care
    -Diabetes Treatment
    -Treatment for Elevated Cholesterol
    -Treatment for Elevated Blood Pressure
    -Holistic Medicine
    -Obstetrical Care
    -Pediatric Care
    -Ca ...[text shortened]... some of the myths to rest.

    Abby Johnson: Planned Parenthood Director turned pro-LIFE advocate
    That really sucks, not giving women prostate exams. The bastards.
  11. Cape Town
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    24 Jan '17 18:32
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Once again...
    Planned Parenthood does NOT provide:
    -Mammograms
    -Prenatal Care
    -Breast Biopsies
    -Breast Cancer Diagnostic Care
    -Primary Health Care
    -Diabetes Treatment
    -Treatment for Elevated Cholesterol
    -Treatment for Elevated Blood Pressure
    -Holistic Medicine
    -Obstetrical Care
    -Pediatric Care
    -Care for HIV Positive Individuals
    -Infertility ...[text shortened]... ting and treatment
    -Pap Smears for Women in Child Bearing Years
    -Limited Contraceptive Methods
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I suppose you believe what you want.

    Obviously some people do. That doesn't make it the truth, it just makes you someone who believes what you want to believe (ie stupid).

    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-central-western-new-york/patient-resources/our-services

    Services vary by clinic.

    I hope they genuinely don't provide 'Holistic Medicine' as that is usually a load of rubbish.
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    24 Jan '17 22:29
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No, it is a not 'right' it is a blatant lie. You are guilty of spreading blatant lies.
    I know you are not exactly bright, but I am fairly sure you knew this was a lie before you posted it. I don't live in the US and have never visited planned parenthood, but I know that it is a lie. You are getting old and live in the US and you didn't know this? And yo ...[text shortened]... t bother to do a quick Google to see if it was true? You knew it was a lie but posted it anyway.
    Here's your problem, son.
    You call another poster a liar with the "reasoning" (according to you) that he could have easily verified the information with a simple Google search.
    So what do you do?
    Why, a simple Google search.
    Natch!
    And yet what do we find with another simple Google search of your simple Google search which was to ostensibly refute his failure to execute a simple Google search?
    Just that you're full of crap.
    Per usual.
    Your first link for a PP clinic lists six or so local PP clinics for women seeking pre-natal care.
    So far, so good.
    Click on links for said local clinics.
    Yep: them are real PP clinics!
    So far, so good.
    But what do they offer?
    Oh, you know: all the usual services one has come to expect at a PP clinic... abortion, birth control, yada-yada-yada.
    But pre-natal?
    Absolutely!
    We will point you right to some places you can go for those services.

    So if we--- heaven forbid--- defund PP, women will lose a much valued, much needed concierge for women seeking pre-natal care.
    What are we expecting women to do in order to find pre-natal care?
    A simple Google search?

    Moron.
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    24 Jan '17 22:501 edit
    [i]Originally posted by sonhouse/i]
    That really sucks, not giving women prostate exams. The bastards.
    Birth control pills are more effective (100% success) when taken by men than by women.
  14. Unknown Territories
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    24 Jan '17 23:15
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Birth control pills are more effective (100% success) when taken by men than by women.
    You know what can boast 100% success rate?
    A woman with her legs closed.
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    24 Jan '17 23:50
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    You know what can boast 100% success rate?
    A woman with her legs closed.
    Ouch, you can't say that to people who love promiscuity. They love their sin and hate anyone who says otherwise.😛
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