Originally posted by vivify
I don't think these teens should be treated as hopeless; but they've spread their racism via social media, so it's quite likely that they may affect other students. That's why I think their schools should have the right to expel these teens, lest they have a larger problem on their hands with more students sharing their beliefs.
Teens aren't like childr ...[text shortened]... against it, indicates that their problems start from home, rather than from a lack of education.
I don't necessarily object to a school expelling a student for being a member of a neo-Nazi Facebook group.
That would depend upon whether the school is public or private and its already declared policies.
It also should depend upon the individual student's participation in that Facebook group.
A student who just signed up for the group and posted nothing is less culpable than a leader.
I am concerned about a student being expelled just for *unpopular* legally protected speech.
During the McCarthyist era, reportedly some students got expelled because their parents
allegedly were Communists rather than for anything that these students had said or done.
Even if these students had said that they supported Communism, would their expulsions have been justified?
Given the nearly universal worship of the military in the USA, a student might risk expulsion from
some American schools if one said that one approved of Iraqis killing the Americans
who had invaded and occupied Iraq.
*If* it's true that overt racism is as stigmatized now in the USA as Vivify claims, then he
should *not* have to worry about a Facebook group influencing other high school students.
The Roma (gypsies) were the victims of Nazi genocide. If these American teenagers had
posted only about killing Roma, not blacks or Jews, then would they be condemned as much?
My point is that racism against some (politically influential) minorities is taken more seriously than against others.
Vivify mentions that there are many ongoing campaigns to 'promote tolerance and the like'.
Vivify seems to believe that only extraordinarily bad teenagers would ignore these campaigns.
There also are ongoing campaigns to discourage unwed teenage pregnancies.
But more than a few American high school students continue to fall pregnant.
Some schools routinely used to expel unwed teenage girls who had fallen pregnant.
Even if one believes (which I do not, she's typically immature or unlucky) that an
unwed teenage girl must be extraordinarily bad to fall pregnant, she still has a right to
an education. (And why not expel a teenage boy who impregnates a teenage girl?)
I have no sympathy whatsoever for neo-Nazis, who obviously would hate me.
But I am concerned about how their treatment could affect how others are treated.