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    So what if MBS had a journalist killed and dismembered. They can be trusted with nuclear technology, right?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-regime-approves-sale-sensitive-nuclear-technology-saudis/5673159
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    03 Apr '19 19:00
    @metal-brain said
    So what if MBS had a journalist killed and dismembered. They can be trusted with nuclear technology, right?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-regime-approves-sale-sensitive-nuclear-technology-saudis/5673159
    This from the POTUS saying he wants to know the oranges of the Mueller report and that his father was born in Germany (his GRANDfather was born in Germany). He said that several times in several venues, including a talk to NATO.
    I saw one post here where the guy read 'the art of the deal' where he said his family came from Sweden.
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    @sonhouse said
    This from the POTUS saying he wants to know the oranges of the Mueller report and that his father was born in Germany (his GRANDfather was born in Germany). He said that several times in several venues, including a talk to NATO.
    I saw one post here where the guy read 'the art of the deal' where he said his family came from Sweden.
    when Trump sends them 150 billion in the dead of night you let me know...k?
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    @sonhouse said
    This from the POTUS saying he wants to know the oranges of the Mueller report and that his father was born in Germany (his GRANDfather was born in Germany). He said that several times in several venues, including a talk to NATO.
    I saw one post here where the guy read 'the art of the deal' where he said his family came from Sweden.
    Why nothing about it in the corporate news media? I havn't heard so much silence since Pakistan got nuclear weapons. Why doesn't anyone seem to care? Shouldn't this be front page news?
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    04 Apr '19 03:01
    Should Mr. Bone saw get help from Trump to make Plutonium? Meanwhile DJT is trying to overthrow a democracy in Venezuela and replace it with a dictator. Guaido? Not sure I spelled his name right, but aren't leaders supposed to be elected president in a country with the best elections in the world?

    I don't recall hearing a debate about this on Meet the Press or Fox News Sunday. If we are not being influenced by propaganda why no debates about it? Do you need the corporate news media to tell you what to think? I thought that didn't happen in a democracy.

    “Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state.”

    ― Noam Chomsky, Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda

    Now it makes sense. Right?
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    04 Apr '19 05:24
    @metal-brain said
    So what if MBS had a journalist killed and dismembered. They can be trusted with nuclear technology, right?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-regime-approves-sale-sensitive-nuclear-technology-saudis/5673159
    MBS has money. Trump wants it. ‘Let’s cut a deal.’ End of story.
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    @moonbus said
    MBS has money. Trump wants it. ‘Let’s cut a deal.’ End of story.
    How many nuclear power plants has Israel bombed in that general region? There is more to it than that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia
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    @metal-brain said
    How many nuclear power plants has Israel bombed in that general region? There is more to it than that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia
    From memory only the one. They are aware that nuclear fall-out does not tend to respect national borders.
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    @deepthought said
    From memory only the one. They are aware that nuclear fall-out does not tend to respect national borders.
    Do you really think Israel will bomb a US/UK ally? Iraq's nuclear power plant was bombed by Israel while Iraq was supposedly allies with the US, but we now know that was bull crap. Reagan condemned it, but privately they were all for it. CIA policy was to weaken all oil nations for the taking. US dollar hegemony depends on it. There is far too much wealth for the powers that be to ignore with the US dollar being the world reserve currency. It is so much wealth that they will wage wars that kill millions of people to maintain it. It is just a blood drop in the bucket for them. Why should the Rothschilds care?

    http://discovermagazine.com/2003/aug/featkiss?fbclid=IwAR0rrdufOI4cBZEyYuYUGRd9kXOmS_XaXOR_LQKj279YAWZ1q9FX6tA07G4
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    My government did the same thing for Pakistan. Here is a quote from the article below:

    " The United States provided Pakistani nuclear scientists with technical training from the 1950s into the 1970s. And it turned a blind eye to the nuclear weapons program in the 1980s, because Pakistan was providing the crucial link in the CIA's effort to smuggle billions of dollars of weapons to Afghan guerrillas attempting to drive out Soviet invaders. "

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/world/asia/060198pakistan-nuke-history.html

    After allowing Pakistan to get the bomb, the US wants another Muslim nation to get one. Didn't 15 of the 19 hijackers on 911 come from Saudi Arabia?
    Trump is not really anti Muslim. He would not be giving nuclear technology to Muslims if he was. Trump attacking Ilhan Omar is just a distraction from his Muslim coddling of the Saudi kingdom, the most brutal regime in the world. Trump pretends he doesn't like antisemitism while condoning the teaching of antisemitism in Saudi schools so the children grow up hating Jews.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/trump-ilhan-omar.html

    Yep, just another double standard they hope you will not notice. Trump is so anti Muslim he wants the most brutal Muslim dictatorship in the world to have nuclear weapons.
    Makes perfect sense if you are uninformed and know nothing about it. That is why the world is a bloody mess!
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    16 Apr '19 07:53
    No comments on Trump's hypocrisy? Not even from the liberals? I guess liberals secretly like Trump. Very little from the liberals about Trump conspiring to overthrow a democracy in Venezuela either.

    I guess liberals secretly condone Trump's hypocrisy. MBS with Plutonium? That is okay.
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    17 May '19 06:47
    Muslims need nukes too. Don't discriminate against psychopaths. They are people too.
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    @metal-brain said
    Do you really think Israel will bomb a US/UK ally? Iraq's nuclear power plant was bombed by Israel while Iraq was supposedly allies with the US, but we now know that was bull crap. Reagan condemned it, but privately they were all for it. CIA policy was to weaken all oil nations for the taking. US dollar hegemony depends on it. There is far too much wealth for the powers t ...[text shortened]... rmagazine.com/2003/aug/featkiss?fbclid=IwAR0rrdufOI4cBZEyYuYUGRd9kXOmS_XaXOR_LQKj279YAWZ1q9FX6tA07G4
    (MetalBrain replied to DeepThought.)

    "Do you really think Israel will bomb a US/UK ally?"
    --MetalBrain

    In fact, Israel bombed the USS Liberty, killing 34 Americans, in 1967.
    (It's unclear if Israel had any nukes in 1967.)

    Israel claimed that it had misidentified the USS Liberty as an Egyptian ship.
    About all of the American survivors believe that Israel was and has been lying.
    Most historians evidently believe that the USA helped Israel cover up the attack.

    _Blood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty_
    by Joan Mellon (2018)
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    @duchess64 said
    (MetalBrain replied to DeepThought.)

    "Do you really think Israel will bomb a US/UK ally?"
    --MetalBrain

    In fact, Israel bombed the USS Liberty, killing 34 Americans, in 1967.
    (It's unclear if Israel had any nukes in 1967.)

    Israel claimed that it had misidentified the USS Liberty as an Egyptian ship.
    About all of the American survivors believe that Israel was and ...[text shortened]... lood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty_
    by Joan Mellon (2018)
    That was a false flag event. They wanted to blame Egypt, right? It was a conspiracy between allies to invade Egypt on false pretenses that failed.
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