[i]Originally posted by @sh76 to Kmax87/i]
Oh, it waivers plenty.
Anyway, my position is not about rights but about whether I'm the right enforcement agent.
I do like the way you phrase things, BTW. You have that yin/yang eloquence thing going.
As Ron Unz, a conservative white American Jew and alumnus of Harvard, has written,
the more that Harvard can use subjective 'personality scores' (where Asian Americans
are consistently rated lower than whites, blacks, and Latinos) and other measures
such as de facto racial quotas to reduce Asian Americans admissions (to perhaps about
half of what they would be if only academic merit were considered), the more that other
groups (including wealthy whites, including Jews, whom Ron Unz believes that Harvard
gives preferential treatment) can selfishly gain at Asian Americans' expense.
I suspect that Sh76 would have opposed Harvard's anti-Jewish quotas of several decades ago.
But Harvard's evident anti-Asian quotas today may be regarded as 'good for Jews',
so I wonder if Sh76 would prefer to embrace consistent principle or group self-interest.
In general, Asian Americans are becoming more politically conscious and less easily intimidated.
Anti-Asian racism is endemic in the USA (evidently condoned or approved by about every
American here). Asian Americans have reasons to doubt that making morally principled
arguments against anti-Asian racism will gain much support among non-Asian Americans.
(Non-Asian Americans tend to be indifferent toward any amount of anti-Asian racism.)
So the arguments against anti-Asian racism need to be made upon more pragmatic
direct grounds, even when it may involve major self-sacrifice by Asian Americans.
Around 2000, the US government 'purged' (not for the first time) its defense labs of many
Chinese American scientists and engineers, who were suspected, without evidence, of
'disloyalty' to the USA on account of being 'perpetual foreigners' allegedly loyal to China.
(Even Chinese Americans who had grown up in Taiwan were presumed to be loyal to China.)
In response, some Asian American academics urged a general Asian American boycott
of US defense labs. It got a mixed response, with some Asian Americans feeling that
this issue was particular to Chinese Americans, so it need not concern them.
Several years later, the US government belatedly regretted its decision on 'security grounds'
to 'purge' Chinese American scientists and engineers because it had failed to come
close to replacing them all with comparably qualified or skilled non-Chinese Americans.
(Contrary to what No1Marauder presumably would believe, there were not enough, if any,
black scientists and engineers who were at least as intelligent and industrious as the
'purged' Chinese Americans who were being denied employment in US defense labs
on account of racism.) The US government belatedly concluded that it was better to
employ highly technically qualified Chinese Americans (who would be closely monitored
by right-wing white security people) than less qualified 'politically reliable' or 'politically correct' people.
So,, without conceding any error or any racism, the US government attempted to recruit
Chinese Americans with PhDs in relevant fields to work for US defense labs. But few
would take that bait because, for one thing, the US government's dishonesty in refusing
to concede any error or racism in earlier discrimination against Chinese Americans.
So let the US government live with the consequences of its prejudices and paranoia.
It seems fashionable here to put down or dismiss Asian American academic achievements.
Many Americans presumably would say 'Good riddance! ' to Asian Americans who feel
motivated to emigrate on account of American racism. But if the time ever comes (which
I doubt as of now) that racism has driven away practically all Asian Americans with exceptional
talent in science, engineering, and technology, then I wonder what will be left of the USA's
standing in science, engineering, and technology. In my view, if the USA lost all its talented
Asian Americans, it would be a more devastating blow than what the Third Reich suffered
when it lost its talented German Jews because Asian Americans today constitute an
even higher proportion of the top American scientists and engineers than Jews
constituted a proportion of the top German scientists and engineers in the 1930s.
Anti-Asian racists in the USA should beware of what they may wish for.