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  1. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    23 Jun '17 05:09 / 1 edit
    An American man marries a Russian lady and they choose to live in....Russia. No, I don't plan to move there, but looking at things from the other side of the fence is not something American's are known for, and it can be pretty interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fknB1msANV8&t=280s
  2. 23 Jun '17 19:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    An American man marries a Russian lady and they choose to live in....Russia. No, I don't plan to move there, but looking at things from the other side of the fence is not something American's are known for, and it can be pretty interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fknB1msANV8&t=280s
    I know of an American man who fell in love with a Russian woman who was his group's tour guide in Russia.
    He subsequently made more trips to Russia just so he could be with her again.
    (He said that she was the most expensive date that he ever had.) Eventually, they got married.
    He chose to live with her in Russia because, being retired, his pension would go further there.

    _Behind the Urals_ by John Scott (published in 1942) describes how a 20 year old American
    man worked in the new industrial city of Magnitogorsk, USSR from 1932 until 1938.
    John Scott married Mariya (Masha) Dikareva, a secretary who became a mathematics teacher.
    (She was the women's chess champion of Magnitogorsk.) From 1938 to 1942, he lived
    in Moscow until he was able to move with his wife and their two children to the USA.
  3. 23 Jun '17 20:10
    Originally posted by mchill
    An American man marries a Russian lady and they choose to live in....Russia. No, I don't plan to move there, but looking at things from the other side of the fence is not something American's are known for, and it can be pretty interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fknB1msANV8&t=280s
    oh russia is awesome.

    if you're not gay.
    or poor.
    or a journalist.
  4. 23 Jun '17 21:32
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi to Mchill
    oh russia is awesome.

    if you're not gay.
    or poor.
    or a journalist.
    Mchill seems like a naïve American who's astonished that any American could like to live in Russia.
    I did not notice Mchill claiming that Russia's a utopia or denying that many people have hard lives in Russia.
  5. 24 Jun '17 03:27
    Why is Russia better than the US?

    Is it because most Russians prefer Trump to Hillary?
  6. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    24 Jun '17 13:09
    Russia's got some great things going for her!

    9 month long Winters, raw fish eggs and the maffia.

    I'm not saying the US is any better, but the weather in California is more to my liking.
  7. 24 Jun '17 17:26
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    oh russia is awesome.

    if you're not gay.
    or poor.
    or a journalist.
    Europe and the US are awesome

    if you are not Muslim, or black.
  8. 25 Jun '17 08:00
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Europe and the US are awesome

    if you are not Muslim, or black.
    And Russia is any better for those?

    If you're Muslim, it's automatically assumed you're in liege with Chechen terrorists. As for black people... how many of them are there in Russia, anyway?
  9. 25 Jun '17 21:37 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Shallow Blue to TWhitehead
    And Russia is any better for those?

    If you're Muslim, it's automatically assumed you're in liege with Chechen terrorists.
    As for black people... how many of them are there in Russia, anyway?
    Anti-Muslim prejudices have existed in Russia long before Chechen nationalists began
    seeking independence from Russia in the First Chechen War (1994-1996).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War

    I would mention, however, that when, after a long war of resistance (which drew admiration
    among the British) against Russian conquest, Imam Shamil surrendered to the Russians,
    the Tsar ordered that he be treated with respect and given relatively luxurious treatment
    as a prisoner. Despite the bitterness of the long ruthless war, the Russians honoured
    Shamil as a gallant enemy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil

    Pushkin is the most famous Russian of (partial) black African ancestry in history.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Russian

    "The Metis Foundation estimates that there are about 40,000 Afro-Russians."

    For further reading:
    -Black on Red: My 44 Years Inside the Soviet Union_ by Robert Robinson
    _Soul to Soul: A Black Russian Jewish Woman's Search for Her Roots_ by Yelena Khanga

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Robinson_(engineer)

    "Robert Robinson (1907–1994), the "poster child for Soviet antiracism", was a Jamaican-born
    toolmaker who worked in the auto industry in the United States. At the age of 23, he was
    recruited to work in the Soviet Union. Shortly after his arrival in Stalingrad, Robinson was
    racially assaulted by two white American workers, both of whom were subsequently
    arrested, tried and expelled from the Soviet Union with great publicity.

    Starting with a one-year contract by Russians to work in the Soviet Union, Robinson
    twice renewed his contract. After the publicity of his assault, he felt unable to return to
    the US and accepted Soviet citizenship. He earned a degree in mechanical engineering.
    His repeated attempts to visit outside the USSR finally resulted in an approved trip to
    Uganda in 1974, where he asked for and was given asylum. He married an African-American
    professor working there. He finally gained re-entry to the United States in 1976, and
    gained attention for his accounts of his 44 years in the Soviet Union."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelena_Khanga