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Eternal suffering?  Or eternal death?

Eternal suffering? Or eternal death?

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Originally posted by apathist
He is looking for good people. Lots of christians will not make it; lots of pagans will. Or is your god about something else?
No, He is only looking for the blood of Jesus Christ there are no good people.


Originally posted by KellyJay
No, He is only looking for the blood of Jesus Christ there are no good people.
Ah. That blood was shed, so everyone is golden now.

Nothing weird about a creator god that needs his offspring to suffer and die before this god can forgive his own creations for being created! Who would not worship such a thing.


Originally posted by KellyJay
Jesus made away for us to be saved so God could completely and righteously forgive us all of all we have ever done without exception. So from the most righteous of us, to the very worst, Jesus can save us.
So what about "settling all things"?

Is not the "very worst" of us referring to this?

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Originally posted by apathist
Ah. That blood was shed, so everyone is golden now.

Nothing weird about a creator god that needs his offspring to suffer and die before this god can forgive his own creations for being created! Who would not worship such a thing.
He created mankind and fell in love with us, despite our major imperfections. The ultimate demonstration of His love for us was He Himself incarnating here, donning the flesh, and suffering torture and murder by our hand. Of course, it was a plan put in motion way, way back. A foreshadowing of His willing self-sacrifice and its seriousness was given in the Abraham-Isaac event--where God stilled Abraham's hand and said no. God went through with it.


Originally posted by karoly aczel
So what about "settling all things"?

Is not the "very worst" of us referring to this?
Jesus became sin for us, our sin so we could be forgiven. What do you think God is going
to do with those that accept His gift, and what do you think will happen to those that think
it a little thing not worth anything, or those found outside of Jesus' grace and mercy?


Originally posted by apathist
Ah. That blood was shed, so everyone is golden now.

Nothing weird about a creator god that needs his offspring to suffer and die before this god can forgive his own creations for being created! Who would not worship such a thing.
Not the unworthy, those who reject and mock Christ will be left to their own devices, you
will find out if you gods are worth the effort compared to Christ on that day.



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Not intentionally. I am stilling trying to get used to this style of forum where you have to go back over pages and comb through. I guess I missed it. I started this off by pretty much asking the same thing you're asking. I said "if" [x] is true, then why [y]? I was suggesting that I'm not so sure there is an answer for [y] that is satisfactory enough to establish [x].

X being everlasting souls in eternal torment, and Y being death of the soul (contradicting X)

EDIT: I just went back and went through all the pages and I still don't see where you you illicited a response from me and then got ignored. And you've had 6 pages to tell me what response you're looking for... can you go ahead and do that here?

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